A friend of mines daughter just died do to some wired infection she just got two weeks ago, she was only 30. My daughter has been dealing with the most painful disease on earth and someone else I know is dying of bone cancer, when she moves her bones break. I have faith that god is useless!!!!
Crazyguy
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My Thoughts on the Subject of Faith
by Saethydd ini've had several discussion about the basis for faith in an all powerful creator for the universe, and it seems as if the conversation often comes back to, "well, either way, you have to have faith either in a creator or in the process of evolution because you can't observe that either.
" setting aside the issue of creation and evolution (where i currently sit at undecided), i was also troubled by the tendency to treat faith as a static or absolute concept when in reality it is far more complex.. to begin with, faith isn't just about belief, it combines the concepts of belief and trust.
for the purposes of this discussion, i will be focusing primarily on the second attribute.
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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Crazyguy
Study but find ways to ask those tuff questions that he can't answer. Do it in the best way you know how not to piss him off to badly.
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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Crazyguy
Believer go look up one of my earliest threads where I completely blow up using scripture the belief that only the 144k are anointed through Christ and go to heaven. The scriptures clearly state that all who believe in Christ are gods sons and are of the anointing of Christ.
But on a more serious note this Christ your speaking of is actually Serapis and the ideas of anointing, and baptism are from Egypt originally. Almost all Christian beliefs are taken from Egypt.
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Mass JW exodus
by stockholm_Syndrome inmaybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
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Crazyguy
I was watching one of the Scientology shows and a person mentioned that in the late 70 the religion was all the rage with about 150,000 members. Now it's said they have less then 50k . So it is possible that a cult like the jws can loose a lot of members.
Personally I think the cult lost a lot of the umph after the 1995 change in the generation teaching. No only did a lot of people leave but a lot just have never taken the cult very seriously anymore. Not to mention the numbers are a total lie anyway.
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Crazyguy
I think Obama care would of made it easier for the jws at bethel , since the health care plan is based on income. Also there nothing in the law that forces any corporations or cults to provide medical insurance to thier help.
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Pioneer Elder Still in Jail (follow up report)
by James Jack inconfirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!
he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.
was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.
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Crazyguy
He's probably still and elder in good standing at his hall too.
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REVEALED: The number of Bethelites over the years
by darkspilver inin response to this thread.
i've put forward the argument that i believe that the 'organization' is financially effectively bleeding itself dry - it is actually financially imploding.. i believe that over the last 45 or so years, in particular, it has evolved from a relatively 'lean machine' into what is now a huge unwieldy organization.
as an organization grows i would expect increased efficiency through by both economies of scale, and advances in technology.. how has the watchtower organization fared?....
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Crazyguy
Yeah but Stan can we really believe the numbers? They count baptisms every year like there additions to the cult when in all reality they are just those converting from publishers to baptised. So what are the real numbers, with all the different accounting methods used now it's hard to tell. I think one of the main reason other then lawsuits thier selling off everything is do to this.
Someone finally told the higher ups that the number of ones still in that can afford to give them money is down way down I think.
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THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) APRIL 2017.....Scare tactics
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower (study edition) april 2017 .
“you must pay your vows to jehovah.”—matt.
5:33.. * to all intents and purposes, he presented himself as one who was wholly dedicated to god.
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Crazyguy
Let me remind everybody that baptism according to the Bible is only for forgiveness of sins not a dedication to any deity whatsoever !
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Mexico branch......Now closing!!!
by krismalone ina circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
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Crazyguy
I wonder if part of the CO thing could be about governments not excepting these vows of poverty knowing full well that when thier old thier dumped on the welfare system. This has been what the Borg has done for years, Bethelites were kicked out as they aged but before retirement. This way they had to go home then try to find work the if they couldn't make it they would get on the welfare system and the cult wasn't liable to pay anything. Maybe the governments are getting wise to this.
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The Governing Body are doubling down on dogma!
by DATA-DOG inin case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!
in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.
1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.
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Crazyguy
What's funny about this is almost all of thier dogma they stole from other religious people and religions, known of it is thier own!