The New Testament is a bit all over the place. I think some of the authors were trying to imply jesus was the same as the god of the Old Testament. Other authors were implying he was a new god an exalted god for what he did and then later the move to create the trinity was made so scriptures were written to imply this. There is no conformity on this in the Bible.
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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!
by Witness 007 insome bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!
the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.
now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..
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Baptism as a Symbol of Dedication - Anther unbiblical doctrine of men
by doubtfull1799 ini'm not sure if this has been discussed before - i did a brief search and couldn't find anything on this particular aspect.. for those atheists who believe it is all nonsense anyway, feel free to ignore this post.
i happen to be of that same persuasion but i still enjoy discussing it on a philosophical level.
its funny how you may have left because of the more "out there" doctrines and chronology etc not making sense and you come to see that they are going "beef the things written", but the longer you're out and the more you think about your old beliefs, even the most common basic or "fundamental" doctrines are also "going beyond the things written.. baptism as a symbol of dedication is a case in point.
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Cold steel Jesus never mentions baptism in these scriptures your assuming being born of water is baptism, where's your proof??
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exJW from Galway, Ireland
by Band Completely ini've been reading many articles on here and other forums relating to exjws for some time.
when my mother first got involved with the witnesses back in '77, my mother's mother and my father's mother, being the "good catholics that they were", gave my father "license" to do "whatever it takes" to stop her associating with these people.. due to "confirmation bias", (i.e.
"satan will do whatever he can to stop you associating with us"), this "persecution" only convinced her that the witnesses had "the truth".
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Welcome and your experiences is just another reason this cult should be banned. They don't care about people just the Borg.
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"A new species combining wolves, coyotes and dogs is evolving before scientists’ eyes in the eastern United States."
by unsure in"a new species combining wolves, coyotes and dogs is evolving before scientists’ eyes in the eastern united states.".
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/a-new-species-is-evolving-right-before-our-eyes-an-ultra-successful-mix-of-wolves-coyotes-and-dogs/.
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On another note scientists have seen another breed of human developing. This new breed of human tends to breed with only its social kind has very little education and is fast becoming like the Neanderthals. They in some cases reduce medical attention and are scared of government authorities. This group is increasingly isolated, ignorant and has higher then normal anxiety. Thier life span is reduced mainly do to thier ignorance. They used to call themselves Jehovah witnesses but do to thier brains becoming smaller they now only refer to themselves as JW.orgs
Some countries feel threatened by these sub humans and have taken steps to eradicate them or at the very least keep them from breading with other normal humans. J/K
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The JW's very own trinity ( and they don't even know it )
by Introvert 2 injust a little something i thought up on the way to work hehe :.
fds / org / gb.
fear / obligation / guilt.
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If you think that's bad read romans chapter 10 in thier bible, it states that Jesus is Jehovah.
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Russia banning JWs might not have the "persecution effect" this time
by truthseeker inrussia banning the organization might not have the same effect as the earlier ban did decades ago.. more and more people have access to the internet.
it only takes a few russian jws to start their google search for the first time to discover the truth about their religion.. questions might arise, such as "why is jehovah allowing this to happen?
consider too, the schism that happened when the romanian jws were cut off from brooklyn.
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Isaiah 1:15 their prayers were not answered because they have blood on thier hands.
This scripture should be plastered all over Russian internet
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Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??
by Crazyguy init's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.
i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.
they are an extremist group!
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Let's be clear , Russia never had freedom of religion in thier constitution. There are some very specific rules on how to operate as a religion in that country. The JWs were banned because they did not follow the rules. Yes the government does lean to the side of the 4 main religions that have been in their land for centuries. But again the issue was never freedom of religion.
Those that argue this, have no merit.
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Jesus Christ dead for three days and three nights really?
by Crazyguy inhas anyone done a detail research on this subject?
the gospels seem to contradict one another and christians apologists have a bunch of different ways to try to explain away the problems.
has anyone have a concrete explanation for or against him truly being dead three days and three nights as the story goes?.
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Jesus went to the underworld during those three days and nights.
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Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final
by OrphanCrow ini just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.
banned.
which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..
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Jehovah would have been proud at the efforts of his people with all the letters written and sent etc. . If only he had been alive to see this event unfortunately he was dead when archaeologists found him in Ugarit. Apparently he died sometime before 1929 when the city was discovered buried, covered over in dirt. Experts think he had been dead for more then three days and threes nights, they believe the more accurate timing of his death was well over 1000 years ago but thier not sure of the specific date do to the fact his statue was not made of wood but of metal which could not be accurately dated.
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Jesus Christ dead for three days and three nights really?
by Crazyguy inhas anyone done a detail research on this subject?
the gospels seem to contradict one another and christians apologists have a bunch of different ways to try to explain away the problems.
has anyone have a concrete explanation for or against him truly being dead three days and three nights as the story goes?.
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Half banana, the first mention of three days and three nights had to do with the story of Innana . She told her companion to wait that long for her to return from visiting her sister god of the underworld. When she didn't because she was killed by her sister the companion went for help.
Innana was the queen of heaven the goddess of fertility and love etc. This story was all about how there's death and no growth during the fall and winter seasons. She was resurrected and others were made to take her place in the underworld during these non productive seasons.