the stupid word in the topic title is a piss-take on the bloody silly jw word "needgreaters" that i have seen them use.. but my question is genuine, i know it is a cyclical thing, we get what seems to be a lot of newbies, and then things quieten down, but not just on here, elsewhere on social media i am seeing stories of people finding the courage to leave, having woken up for a variety of reasons, but usually the child abuse scandal, and the spiteful, judgmental nature of many jw's, who, though supposedly friends, will run off to the elders to snitch on you, not talk to you.
is their a real increase in those leaving ?
i do hope so, so many more finding real freedom and happiness !.
There was an uptick in those that left after the change in the generation teaching in 1995 . There was again after ARC and now with the child abuse. Also the fact that one can do research online is helping to make the leavers not only increase but less are going back.
As more and more child abuse gets reported I think the leavers will continue to increase. What really helps is JWs talk to their families and more leave do to this despite all the GB are doing to try and stop it.
of course, there are many crackpot theories about all sorts of things.
we hear about them,look into them and laugh.however, once in a great while, somebody presents a cogent and feasible thesis backed up by scholarship and history.watch this video presentation and present your rebuttal (or agreement) for discussion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uqg8w7ezuq&t=268s.
The guy that wrote that book had to do some crazy jumping through hoops to make his ideas work. Look up the meaning of Catholic, I think they took ideas from many religions i the empire to finally come up with the Bible then it was changed and changed again. They took ideas from the Osiris cult, Dyonisus cult, Persian religion , the worship of the Cesar etc to come up with Christianity. Also before the Romans the Greeks were trying to stamp out the Jewish religion ie and they put together the Septuagint.
The Bible is a Greek and Roman invention and the writings came from all over the Levant and were changed to reflect the new god they worshipped. The Greeks for example had no problem keeping the word El in the Hebrew Scriptures because to them it represented Zeus and when they conguered Egypt they had no problem with the worship of Amon because they also saw him as Zeus. Same with Osiris he was Dyonisus to them.
so we all know that the first few commandments state that "there should be no graven images made" etc.... but, the very "ark of the covenant" had two angelic figures on the lid!
so the very box used to carry the 10 commandment tablets, broke those same laws!!!.
this observation, plus many other hilarious ones is highlighted in the latest episode of the how-to heretic podcast (episode 063).
Great comments and let’s not forget the Ark was a direct copy of the Egyptian Bark and on one of the temples of Egypt you can see carved into the wall an Egyptian Bark with two winged creatures just like those on the Ark. These two creatures that looked like winged angels were most likely depictions of the goddess Maat. The Egyptian Bark was just like the ark and would be carried from temple to temple as they moved the god Amun around. The similarities are uncanny.
just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.
i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.
the religion has become a nut house.
Welcome!!!
i left wt, 18 years ago.
never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.
i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.
The foreign language congregations were also created with a false sense of growth. I’m just north of where the hall was burned down in washington state. That hall had two English one Spanish and a Manderin congregation. I can tell you there’s really no need for a mandarin in that area.
Also a relative started attending the local ASL congregation and they said most their were not deaf and very few were maybe a handful. It’s all smoke and mirrors!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/09/us/jehovahs-witnesses-attacks-washington-state/index.html.
(cnn)a fire last week at a jehovah's witnesses' house of worship in washington state was arson -- the fifth attack targeting the religious group this year, federal officials said sunday..
These attacks have happen in the county south of me. It would seem that there is a really pissed off person in that county. I think he has hit three different Kingdom Halls . Attempted fires and even shot at the building multiple bullets holes in that incident.
The elders could probably look at their records to find out which dfd JW was most likely to be the one doing this but oh wait they probably destroyed all the records so authorities can’t find out about all the pedophiles , my bad.
i came across this website when i was looking for some emotional/mental support lately as i was summoned by elders to explain someone’s report on me saying “i’m promoting homosexuality”.
i’m inactive, not attending meetings or associating with jw outside of my biological family for almost 2 years now.. yes i am gay (you can judge away) and yes it is in a direct contrast to the scriptures, no arguement about it.. i was brought up in a jw family.
my dad is a typical zealot, he literally talks or thinks about the bible 24/7.
Your in a tough stop because you can’t really fake it. Your gay and that’s the truth and science has proven it not a sin it just the way it is. Maybe the only thing you can do is explain it to your parents that’s its a proven fact of life and nature. Then for the sake of your life and your happiness go live your life. Your young , the biggest regret most of us have here is we wasted away years of our lives before we figured out it was all a lie. Don’t waste your life!!!
felt terrible then i realized we are not to believe reputable media outlets.
because the reports must be apostate driven lies.
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Fake news, just stop watching these fake news sites.
the wainui-o-mata hall is closing and from 01 february they will be relocated to the 200 seater hall in newlands.
johnsonville is merging with the wellington west congregation and will be known at wellington central also to be located in the newlands hall.
wellington east will remain in the hall in kilbirnie at this stage but rumour has it that this hall will also be sold and they will make up the third congregation sharing the newlands hall.
I heard that is some places the halls are being sold and people are now meeting in assembly halls. This may become the norm is places where there’s a assembly hall. They need to sell as many properties as they can not only because of the loss of members but because they don’t want thier properties in the hands of pedophile victims.
smurf girl, i believe is her youtube name, an exjw with a youtube channel.
she claims that if you go all over the jw.borg website you will no longer be able to find any mention of the organization or the fds being gods channel of communication.
so what’s your thoughts on why the change?
Amelia apparently if you go on to their JW library link you can find older documents that state this but according to her nothing on the main JW.org site or any links except the library link which takes you to publications older then just a hand full of years ago. Not sure if that screen shot of JW.org is from the library link or what? Or if it’s just old internet post?
