As I have studied the bible more in depth I have noticed that there is no two tiered set of Christians. As we know the JW religion teaches that only the 144k are anointed as the use Romans chapter 8 to try to show that gods holyspirit will mix with an individual's spirit and then they will know their anointed. All others can be Christians so to speak and they would have the rank and file believe this anyway. But if you read Romans 8:9 notice what it says. "You however,are not in the flesh but in the spirit ,if infact the spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the spirit of Christ does not belong to him."Notice the last sentence, its clear here that one has to have the spirit in him to belong to Christ. Other verses in the bible say that there is no distiction between Christians and of course still other verse say all one has to do is believe in Chris and your an adopted son of God. But does this scripture not destroy any wiggle room the JW's might try to use? Comments please.
Crazyguy
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Doesnt this scripture completley blow up their dogma?
by Crazyguy inas i have studied the bible more in depth i have noticed that there is no two tiered set of christians.
as we know the jw religion teaches that only the 144k are anointed as the use romans chapter 8 to try to show that gods holyspirit will mix with an individual's spirit and then they will know their anointed.
all others can be christians so to speak and they would have the rank and file believe this anyway.
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Question: In what cases is a transfusion of whole blood or the 4 wt prohibited components the only lifesaving solution?
by Daniel1555 indear friends,.
my mother in law said, that bloodless medicine works in all situations.. .
i don't have a lot of medical experience.
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Crazyguy
Just ask your mother inlaw if god loves child sacrafices, and if not which gods did. Maybe that will get her thinking. Also ask if the JWs are so right about this law of no blood then why are they willing to make so many exceptions even allowing cowsblood to be used now (hemopure).
Also ask her did Jesus release us from the law , and if this law is so important why did ones back then that ate animals not bled were only unclean till evening. I hate this child killing cult.
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What Did Jesus Ask US To Preach About?
by Perry injw's repeat mt.
24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?
no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.
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Not sure that would be accurate the second part anyway, for the gentiles didnt know a thing about Christ and probably not much about the jewish religion and the laws. I dont remember Paul talking to much about saved from Judgement but more that he died and was resserercted showing that the gift of salvation was real and that we can to be raised on the last day.
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I think a troubleshooter has been assigned to our congregation
by hoser inthis new couple moved in a couple weeks ago.
special/regular pioneers, he's an elder from bethel.
i think he might have been a co at one time.
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Any ideas on why the elder got axed???
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Spiritual Endangerment Clause?
by Crazyguy inso how does this apply and when do mates effectivally use it, since after all there are many ones married to unbalievers etc.
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Anyone had or known anyone playing this card??? They pretty much tell every one that they have to stay with thier mates except for adultrey so it must be something to play this card?
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What Did Jesus Ask US To Preach About?
by Perry injw's repeat mt.
24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?
no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.
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Crazyguy
The apostles were all about declaring christ as the Messiah, this was the Good News and one can verify it by just reading acts, romans, etc. The Kingdom they new was not a kingdom with out its King. Like Franz brought out in his book CoC, the good news of the kingdom was only mentioned 8 times in the bible but the good news about christ is mentioned over 100. We should be fallowing the example of the apostles.
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*Facepalm* What do you make of this cultish email I just got from my JW friend? What do I say to her?
by Julia Orwell ina bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.
she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.
far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.
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Yeah if i was in your shoes with no family in i would go on the offensive, do it in a way where its not going crazy but tacfully blow up all thier teaching and call them out. You have nothing to fear since you have no friends or family in it. Go down swinging and maybe rescue someone in the proccess.
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"Jehovah will kill your baby if YOU give it a blood transfusion"
by wallsofjericho in"as christian witnesses of jehovah, her parents, darrell and rhoda labrenz, correctly viewed blood transfusion as a violation of god's law and thus opposed it.
they were concerned about their baby's eternal welfare, for everlasting life is the prospect only of those adhering to god's laws.
" yearbook 1975 p.. explain to me how giving my baby blood would make the baby accountable?.
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Not to mention that Jesus released us from the law, and if this proabition from blood was such a big deal then why if one ate a unbled animal they were only unclean until evening. The law is not one of the ten commandments and again Jesus said in Matt 'we desire mercy not sacrifice'. And last but not least how bad was the false gods and the people that worshiped them that sacrifice their babies to them in the bible? Are not the JW's doing human and child sacrafices?? Its one sick Cult!!!
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Spiritual Endangerment Clause?
by Crazyguy inso how does this apply and when do mates effectivally use it, since after all there are many ones married to unbalievers etc.
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So how does this apply and when do mates effectivally use it, since after all there are many ones married to unbalievers etc.?
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A JW apologist writes about VAT 4956
by VM44 ina jw wrote the following in an attempt to discredit the evidence provided by vat 4956. comments on the author's logic would be appreciated.
does vat 4956 prove 587?.
many point to vat 4956 as proof that jerusalem was desolated in 587bce.
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I think like others have mentioned just throw back all the evidence that VAT does not show the date they want and then back up your statemennt and proofs with all the other data that proves 587, when one takes it all into account its hard for anyone thats thinking clearly to deny the obvious.