it really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
Believer go look up one of my earliest threads where I completely blow up using scripture the belief that only the 144k are anointed through Christ and go to heaven. The scriptures clearly state that all who believe in Christ are gods sons and are of the anointing of Christ.
But on a more serious note this Christ your speaking of is actually Serapis and the ideas of anointing, and baptism are from Egypt originally. Almost all Christian beliefs are taken from Egypt.
maybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
I was watching one of the Scientology shows and a person mentioned that in the late 70 the religion was all the rage with about 150,000 members. Now it's said they have less then 50k . So it is possible that a cult like the jws can loose a lot of members.
Personally I think the cult lost a lot of the umph after the 1995 change in the generation teaching. No only did a lot of people leave but a lot just have never taken the cult very seriously anymore. Not to mention the numbers are a total lie anyway.
I think Obama care would of made it easier for the jws at bethel , since the health care plan is based on income. Also there nothing in the law that forces any corporations or cults to provide medical insurance to thier help.
confirmed by a family friend and elder who lives in the area!
he was a pioneer elder in a port st lucie (river view congregation) fl, convention and assembly speaker, a"shining star" of the circuit and had served at bethel for several years.
was sexually abusing his step daughter from age 8 to 12. his wife has divorced him and moved back to tennessee.
He's probably still and elder in good standing at his hall too.
in response to this thread.
i've put forward the argument that i believe that the 'organization' is financially effectively bleeding itself dry - it is actually financially imploding.. i believe that over the last 45 or so years, in particular, it has evolved from a relatively 'lean machine' into what is now a huge unwieldy organization.
as an organization grows i would expect increased efficiency through by both economies of scale, and advances in technology.. how has the watchtower organization fared?....
Yeah but Stan can we really believe the numbers? They count baptisms every year like there additions to the cult when in all reality they are just those converting from publishers to baptised. So what are the real numbers, with all the different accounting methods used now it's hard to tell. I think one of the main reason other then lawsuits thier selling off everything is do to this.
Someone finally told the higher ups that the number of ones still in that can afford to give them money is down way down I think.
the watchtower (study edition) april 2017 .
“you must pay your vows to jehovah.”—matt.
5:33.. * to all intents and purposes, he presented himself as one who was wholly dedicated to god.
Let me remind everybody that baptism according to the Bible is only for forgiveness of sins not a dedication to any deity whatsoever !
a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
I wonder if part of the CO thing could be about governments not excepting these vows of poverty knowing full well that when thier old thier dumped on the welfare system. This has been what the Borg has done for years, Bethelites were kicked out as they aged but before retirement. This way they had to go home then try to find work the if they couldn't make it they would get on the welfare system and the cult wasn't liable to pay anything. Maybe the governments are getting wise to this.
in case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!
in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.
1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.
What's funny about this is almost all of thier dogma they stole from other religious people and religions, known of it is thier own!
for those that still care to read the bible of course.
those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).
i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.
I thInk one has to compare many so as to get the meaning of what the scriptures really say. I also think the Septuagint is the most accurate when it comes to timelines and the history of the Bible stories. I use a bible app as well on my phone that has over 50 translations so it's great for comparison. But let's not forget many of the stories in the Bible were lifted from older writings and then modified so if you want real accuracy then you'll want to read the original stories from the original writings .
a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
Another thing to think about is if this is true then it goes along with what they did in Africa. They stoped paying special pioneers world wide and then closed a branch in a part of Africa that was said to still be growing by leaps and bounds. So like Africa maybe the reason for closing Mexico is money or should I say lack of it. The leaders know they aren't making much money in Latin America or Africa so why continue any spending of money. Also forgot to mention India as well. They can close down all these areas of the world and still make money off of North America and Western Europe. The jws in those countries will be none the wiser so it works for the Borg.
