this posess a seriouse problem to some youngsters within the congregations,are the elders and magazines to controlling ?????.
ayoung couple started married life of ,without the big bang, yes ladies the husband never knew where to put it ,even three months after his wedding night he still hadnot cosumated the wedding,eventualy after 18 months the wife runs of with a worldly man, .
are the youngsters getting married to quick / to soon.. does this show to the effect of mind control over some people ,that they are bombarded with negative all through there lives as j.w.. this is just the tip of the pencil how else are people affected by the magazines and elders,.
Just to play devil's advocate...did anyone happen to think that the young man wasn't attracted to young ladies? I have heard of far stranger things...maybe he married to keep his parents and the congregation off his back. Then when it came time to do the deed he just couldn't do it. Am I close Night?
Jam
it started in 1956. a girl was born.
with lovely strawberry blonde, curly hair.
dad and mom kissing.
Thank you for writing this! It must be painful,but oh so important.It reminds me to be grateful for my children that are now free,and live a normal life. What wonderful gifts they are to me!
Let's not forget the little ones that are still fighting a battle they don't understand.After reading this how my heart aches for them.I almost feel guilty that we made it out relativly normal.
I can't thank you enough!
JAM
the reason that i am a little afraid is that four out of my five grown children are still jws and if they knew that i was on here.....well nothing would change, would it, they don't speak to me now.
ok, i talked myself out of being afraid.
lol .
((((((((ydidi))))))
I only wish they could be real hugs! Your story breaks my heart.
I almost lost my mother to a stroke last year. And I thought of all the years that I had to keep her at arms distance,what a waste of precious life! I can't imagine now not having her in my life and close to my children. This is so puzzling to me that they say that they promote family unity,what a bold face LIE!
I hope to hear from you more...and have no fear,all are welcome here!
JAM
okay, i've chatted with several of you and i thought it was time to tell my story.
it all began during the gulf war early in january 1991. i was concerned about the war becoming the end of the world and naturally, because of my lifestyle, i began asking myself what i intended to do with my life.
a pioneer sister worked in the office where i worked, i knew she was a witness and studied the bible so i asked her opinion on what was happening.
Chris
Welcome to the board! It's good to write it all out. At least for me it was very theraputic. Just know you are not alone and you will find great support and encouragment here.
((((hugs))))
JAM
remember the watchtower that asked "are jws a cult?
" and then listed things that cleared it of the accusations of being such?
cant remember the date.. anyway one of the things it said was that "cults" usually have a lot of ex members testifying against it and the damage it has caused to their family lives.
I didnt' have any fleshly family that shunned me. Just my ex hubby's family. They went so far as to call me worthless. Something that I still carry with me.Even though I know it's not true, it really hurt,and damaged my self-worth. The thing that gets me ...is he was the one running around on me! They just didn't want to see a tarnished image of him.
We haven't seen them in over 2 years (my children and I) But they do make a lame attempt to keep in contact with their grandchildren. But like their father, they don't fit the mold anymore so they have little use for them.It's just a hard situation to explain to an 8 and a 10 year old.And it's obviously one that makes me pretty p***ed off !
I'm one of the lucky ones that all of my family was on the outside of the org. What a happy day it was when I didn't have to keep them at arms distance anymore.I grieve for those who do lose family,I feel it is a high crime that they will have to pay for...and I'm glad I won't be standing in their shoes!
((((((hugs to all))))) JAM
by that i mean from the platform at the kingdumb hall?
i remember some study conductors who had the habit of calling on people in the audience that seemed distracted or unprepared--on purpose so as to embarass them.
some were so out of it when the mic was handed to them they had to ask what was the question, why did you call on me i didnt have my hand up, etc.
I can remember listening to a poor brother give a talk about masterbation. You could tell that he had worked very hard on his talk. And was worried about his choice of words. He was summerizing his talk and he said" So if you are lying there in the middle of the night,and you just can't SHAKE IT..."
I started laughing ...and then it dawned on him what he had said..and he started laughing and finished quickly. I think that was the most fun I have ever had at the KM.
There was also the time that my son( an infant at the time) passed gas so loudly that everyone in the meeting couldn't control themselves.
my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.
Ok so I have to jump on the band wagon!
Let's see...
I had a going away party for a brother that my husband had studied with. There were about 25 to 30 there. Everyone was having a good time,one brother a very young MS was standing in my kitchen insulting my cooking. I said "I didn't think that it was bothering you that much, that's your second plate."
Obvioulsy I got called on the carpet for that because I offended him and embarrassed him. I was told that wasn't my place to insult a brother. Or to correct him in any manner. They wanted me to appologize! I never did. And was told that I wasn't showing good hospitality,and perhaps I shouldn't have get to gethers at my home since I didn't know how to behave.
Looking back on it now...I think WHAT A CROCK OF CRAP!!!!
I'm so glad to be free !
i would really like to hear your opinion on this topic:.
you know how the jws look down their nose on a person who falls into depression?
i am curious how many people here think that if you have been in therapy that you are emotionally weak.
Wow! I'm so glad I found this thread.
I suffered with depression for years. I got those standard answers that most of you have said(more service,more study...ect) I tried..and of course they didn't work. I finally went against all advice from the elders and went to see a doctor. She was so understanding that to this day I will thank her. She put me in touch with a great therapist. What a wonderful experience. I still battle it from time to time,but nothing like it was before.
BTW I found out through the grapevine that A LOT of JW (mostly women) were on antidepressants. I wonder why? LOL :)
thanks again for the great thread!
JAM
the following is copied from off another forum, as i thought it ought to be given as wide a publicity as possible because it seems most people here don't have a really good understanding of the issue and policy of the wts.. can jws be df'd just for believing differently?.
http://www.channelc.org/cgi-bin/eboard30/index.cgiposted by questionfromviewer on thu - dec 19 - 01:30am: .
question from a viewer: .
I have heard stories that you may not necessarily disagree with them (WT) ,but if you question them in a manner that they feels shows a bad heart motive they can disfellowship you. Is this true? I'm curious.
JAM
since leaving the watchtower, do you still believe that you will live forever, here on earth?
some might think that heaven is the final destiny, while other may just believe in this short life and nothing else.
what is your belief and how does it affect your daily life?
You know when I first left the org. I thought if I was going to die...then I'll live life to the fullist.Every weekend was full of parties...drinking...smoking...whatever else came my way. But even that wasn't fullfilling after awhile.
Then I decided that if this wasn't what an ex-JW was supposed to do...then I would try the other way. The dreaded apostacy. And you know the joy that I have found the sense of purpose...far surpasses the psudo-joy I had as a JW.
So yes I believe that there is an eternity. And maybe we dont' have the answers.But I know that God does and he will make it far better than I can imagine. I prefer to just live my life and leave the rest up to Him. He always has my best interest at heart anyway...
JAM
