Mr NW has just come back in... Paul was not of the 'apostles' as he did not sit with Jesus at the Last Supper.... He was not in agreement with the 'elders' in Jerusalem, so if he also was ordained by holy spirit - why was he not in accord with them, because these men were directly ordained by Jehovah so supposedly all these ones would have the interests of the 'Kingdom' in mind? (Paul included) Again. the circumcision decision was also disputed by Paul... Paul comes over as a rebel within the Christian Congregation - and NW's brother states him as being the first anti-Christ? Could prove to be a very interesting topic (I agree with Billy) Mrs NW
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS' TEACHINGS & PAUL'S
by Mary inhas anyone noticed that alot of paul's ideas that are part of the scriptures contrast directly with jesus'??
paul said about fornicators, idolaters, etc.
that they should be booted out of the congregation and should be "treated as a person of the nation, or a tax collector" and that no one should "even say a greeting to him.
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Movies over the Weekend?
by sandy in.
did anybody take in any movies recently or over the weekend?.
i saw identity and i give it two thumbs up?
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Yup - took our daughter and a friend to see 10 ways to lose a guy - great film...watch out fellas LOL Mrs NW
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JESUS' TEACHINGS & PAUL'S
by Mary inhas anyone noticed that alot of paul's ideas that are part of the scriptures contrast directly with jesus'??
paul said about fornicators, idolaters, etc.
that they should be booted out of the congregation and should be "treated as a person of the nation, or a tax collector" and that no one should "even say a greeting to him.
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Very Interesting - I will have Mr NW post back to you (he is out at the mo) but his brother has some really interesting points on Paul - very thought provoking. Along the lines of your thoughts - now I am having to rack my brain to remember what we have spoken about with NW's brother. One thing - he never agreed with the 'body of older men' in Jerusalem - he seemed to be a law unto himself. He caused great controversy amongst the early christians. As I say I will have NW post back. Mrs NW
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Son Graduating end of May but...
by SheilaM inmy son will be graduating may 29 then leaving for bootcamp the 11 or so of june.
i find it so sad that most of the people i sent invitations to weren't family ( i have no dub family and most of thunder's is out too) i didn't bother sending my dad an invitation since he has gone to none of his granchildren's graduation, (oooh don't get me going on him
(sorry but had to vent)
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(((((((((((((hugs and hugs))))))))))))))) Sometimes just a hug and a smile helps you cope. I know that It always helps me. Keep going girl.... Mrs Nightwarrior (cath in the uk)
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What did you do with all your JW books and magazines?
by JH inwhat did you do with all your old books and magazines from the watchtower?
did you throw all of them away, or did you keep a few?.
i still kept a few bibles and a couple of books.
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Well our daughter had a great time having a bonfire with all the magazines, the books still have to go. I have kept my Bibles, and some reference books, but the rest, well another bonfire beckons - my daughter rubs her hands with glee... Mrs Nightwarrior
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Women in Heaven?
by sandy inwhy is it that women are worthy enough to go to heaven but they cannot hold the same privileges as men in the congregation?.
has anybody ever asked the org.
this question?
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IWAS LED TO BELEIVE THAT THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS SEXUAL PARTS OR DISTINCTIONS IN HEAVEN ,THAT There were neither male nor female ,charactaristics as angels were sexless so to speak
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Dead X-JW Who Cares
by Mystery inthis is probably more for me than any other thing.
all i want to do is scream at his sisters of how much they missed by not associating with their brother.
i want go out and shake sense into all of these people to live by shunning!
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MYSTERY. Although he was shunned by certain people ,i guess that he found the power within himself to forgive them otherwise his life would hav been on hold ,he took back from the organization ,STRENGTH/COURAGE DIGNITY/FREEDOM OF SPEECH / He made a new life for himself he found a way back to god ,the j.w take your soul,they take freedom of speech and thought away from you , He is on the road to life he freed his mind,its the teachings of the j.w that lead many to there deaths,but they cant see all the false prophesys they pass out in gods name. His sisters allso have a lot to answer for allso,wanna know something even now they want feel guilty ,as they have been conditioned by the borg . Ringing his wife is not a thing to do ,let her grieve her husband in peace ,your only an old girlfriend as far as she is concerned ,sorry to be harsh but you know all you need to know and i am sure he knows how you feel,as you say you have a loving husband now you both need to stand by each other and try and forget the past but keep your memories.
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Is it really so...????????????????????/
by petespal2002 inat the book study conversation turned to the importance of numbers and their symbolic use in bible texts.
the elder leading the study stated that he believed the number 7 was of such vital importance, that when the great crowd number 7,000,000 and the remnant 7000 the end will come.
any thoughts?
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Someone seems to have put his own interpretation into things generaly only allowed by the faithfull and discreet slave class. YES THIS BROTHER IS DOING HIS OWN THING ,WE NEED TO APPLAUDE HIM, As the next thing is he will be joining us on this board as in him being disfellowshiped for treason .(but whats new )
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Dead X-JW Who Cares
by Mystery inthis is probably more for me than any other thing.
all i want to do is scream at his sisters of how much they missed by not associating with their brother.
i want go out and shake sense into all of these people to live by shunning!
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WE ALL CARE. HI MYSTER The facts are that he tried to get reinstated ,back into the organization that eventusly causes so many heartbreaks and so so much hate and hostility to members ,take satisfaction in the fact that he tried to come back to you ,but the local elders had a vendetta against him ,once a peron is repentant to god , not to man then he may apply for reinstatment,but someone somewhere stopped him being reinstated,as you say he loved you and due to circumstances he had to move onto another life with someone else,you must be happy for him and the fact that he had children with someone else ,if only you were stronger in yourself when you saw him at the gathering ,but you had to follow enpty rules and false reasonings from the organization,because you wouldnot speak to him in front of others he would understand the whys and wherfores ,he knew within himself he loved you and you him ,THIS SHUNNINGAs practised by all j.ws causes so much pain and heartache to most concerned but as you now know SHUNNING is not scriptual it is a man made requirment , You know need to take stock of your life and enjoy it with your husband the past is past,move on and allow your old thoughts to remain private but dont blame your new husband for past events ,your old love would want you to be happy ,NO he is not in hell,as being free opens your mind to the love of god,i will post another time how and why shunning is wrong but many on the board have had there eyes open to freedom , shunning is just one part of freedom to receive gods love, he wasnot punished by god for his former deeds ,as some may want you to think,move on with your life and move out of the organization ,by posting more on this board as jehovah god loves us all,by the way,(IN THE LAST DAYS A PEOPLE WILL BEAR MY NAME)THEY WILL SAY BUT LORD DID WE NOT PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME, I WILL SAY TO THEM GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESNESS, WHOM IS USING GODS NAME,????? ( WHOM IS SEEN AS A WORKER OF LAWLESNESS ,) WHY NONE OTHER THAN (JEHOVAHS WITNESESS)LEAVE THEM MR NIGHTWARRIOR
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Dead X-JW Who Cares
by Mystery inthis is probably more for me than any other thing.
all i want to do is scream at his sisters of how much they missed by not associating with their brother.
i want go out and shake sense into all of these people to live by shunning!
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nightwarrior
WE ALL CARE. HI MYSTER The facts are that he tried to get reinstated ,back into the organization that eventusly causes so many heartbreaks and so so much hate and hostility to members ,take satisfaction in the fact that he tried to come back to you ,but the local elders had a vendetta against him ,once a peron is repentant to god , not to man then he may apply for reinstatment,but someone somewhere stopped him being reinstated,as you say he loved you and due to circumstances he had to move onto another life with someone else,you must be happy for him and the fact that he had children with someone else ,if only you were stronger in yourself when you saw him at the gathering ,but you had to follow enpty rules and false reasonings from the organization,because you wouldnot speak to him in front of others he would understand the whys and wherfores ,he knew within himself he loved you and you him ,THIS SHUNNINGAs practised by all j.ws causes so much pain and heartache to most concerned but as you now know SHUNNING is not scriptual it is a man made requirment , You know need to take stock of your life and enjoy it with your husband the past is past,move on and allow your old thoughts to remain private but dont blame your new husband for past events ,your old love would want you to be happy ,NO he is not in hell,as being free opens your mind to the love of god,i will post another time how and why shunning is wrong but many on the board have had there eyes open to freedom , shunning is just one part of freedom to receive gods love, he wasnot punished by god for his former deeds ,as some may want you to think,move on with your life and move out of the organization ,by posting more on this board as jehovah god loves us all,by the way,(IN THE LAST DAYS A PEOPLE WILL BEAR MY NAME)THEY WILL SAY BUT LORD DID WE NOT PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME, I WILL SAY TO THEM GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESNESS, WHOM IS USING GODS NAME,????? ( WHOM IS SEEN AS A WORKER OF LAWLESNESS ,) WHY NONE OTHER THAN (JEHOVAHS WITNESESS)LEAVE THEM MR NIGHTWARRIOR