It does indeed Cofty.
rocketman
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Everything Not Forbidden is Compulsory
by cofty ini came across this phrase in the context of quantum mechanics.
it's called the gell-mann's totalitarian principle.. i thought it summed up life in the watchtower quite accurately..
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What makes a true friend?
by stuckinarut2 inso the "model" presentation for this months latest awake mag is this (as found in the latest kingdom ministry):.
social networks have made it possible for people to have more so-called friends than ever before.
what would you say is the most important quality of a true friend?
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rocketman
Wow, jws at JWTalk actually coming out and saying that their congregation is not so friendly? I'm amazed that anyone there had the courage to call it as they see it.
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rocketman
While good customer relations are vital to any business, in my personal experience it just is not a point of great emphasis at a grocery store. Besides a friendly hello to the cashier, I barely speak to anyone, and I don't expect them to strike up a conversation with me either.
On the other hand, the OP is a regular customer, so perhaps a rapport exists, in which case it would certainly be reasonable to expect to receive at least a warm greeting in reply from employees.
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In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury
by Newly Enlightened inhttp://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.
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https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.
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rocketman
Apognophos - The least the JW elders could have done is commented, or visited the family to explain whatever the situation was that spurred the decision to not to honor their handshake agreement.
Also, words and gestures mean things. If they could not have been certain, they should not have made an agreement.
Whatever happened to "let your yes mean yes"? Do they not claim to obey the words of Jesus?
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In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury
by Newly Enlightened inhttp://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.
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https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.
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rocketman
"With foundation already poured, the family still hopes the Jehovah’s Witnesses have a change of heart." - Fat chance.
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Ray Franz - is he REALLY a hero?
by baltar447 inon one hand, he's enlightnened many to the internal circle jerk that is the governing body (circa the 70s).. but if there's one reason that can be pointed to for the jws becoming full on cult, it's ray franz.
without him leaving in the manner he did, and stirring the pot, they might not have change the rule (retroatively i might add) on shunning of disassociated ones.
they specifically changed that so they could remove him and eliminate his influence.. his actions single handedly have created the situation where we have to fade, evade, leave marriages, say goodbye to family, just because we don't buy the jw bullsh!t anymore.
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rocketman
Those courageously leaving the religion certainly benefitted by having an insider, as a member of the Governing Body, writing about his experiences and their teachings.
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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rocketman
A couple of decades ago, we had a fund of a few thousand bucks in our KH bank account. We would use it to help out various members of the congregation in emergency situations and to cover some minor expenses that might crop up.. It was donated money, willed to the congregation, for use as it saw fit.
A C.O. came around and told the elders to send the money to the Society, and it was bye-bye fund.
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Would Your Family Stone You to Death?
by cofty inot law required jews to take the lead in stoning a family member who became apostate.. the watchtower has lamented the fact that the law of the land now forbids them from doing so.. if the law permitted it, as it does in some musim countries, and if the watchtower required it, would your family obey?.
my parents are good people and i believe their love for me is genuine, but i think they would follow orders.. what about yours?.
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rocketman
My parents are gone, but there is no way they would have obeyed any directive against me or any of their children. That's one of the many things I loved about them. They were JWs but never really toed the organizational line.
However, I do know at least one set of parents that I think would, because they currently treat their DF'd JW daughter (who is a member of this board) as if she is is dead. Once a person become dead to someone, they may not be such a far cry from actually killing them, given the directive to do so.
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You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....
by Muddy Waters inafter leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .
but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.
i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.
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rocketman
The linked blog that Mad Giant provided the link to really got me thinking, though I should add that it also reinforced and confirmed some of the thinking I've done over the years about Jesus and his teachings.
One example is Jesus strict teaching on divorce. Even his disciples questioned marriage once Jesus basically told them that divorce in all cases except adultery was prohibited. This teaching has caused the Watchtower to come up with all kinds of odd procedures in cases of divorce.
For example, the unfaithfulness has to either be admitted to or proven.
When I was an elder, we had a sister who knew her husband was unfaithful. But he would not admit it, and we told her that someone had to witness him, say, coming out of his mistresses' residence at night.
So this unfortunate woman had to wait until someone saw her husband effectively commit adultery.
All because of Jesus teaching.
And I vividly remember sitting at that meeting with this sister and thinking 'this just isn't reasonable'.
And that's not even the worst it gets. How about women that are abused physically? Well, as long as he's not cheating on them, they can't divorce and remarry, all because of Jesus' teaching on divorce.
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Dinosaurs.
by bobert inas a jw i always believed that dinosaurs at one point existed.
my whole family did, almost all the jws i knew did.
one time i was out for dinner, and one of the people with us was convinced that they never existed.
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rocketman
The Society, as pointed out by fastJehu's research, has indeed acknowledged the existence of dinosaurs. However, they must realize that their timetable for their existence does not even come close to the accepted conclusion in paleontology that they existed for close to 230 million years and went extinct 65 million years ago.