Posts by LevelThePlayingField

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

LevelThePlayingField

Great. Keep us up to date with it. In a way I feel sorry for them, but the truth is, to each his own. Stay your ground and bring forth the good arguments.

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The most sick statement put in JW print

by Chook in

wt 1973 p568.

"did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".

what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..

I agree, probably a pedophile. But I've seen this article before and thought that I never heard of such a thing, ever. The first thing that crossed my mind when I read it for the first time was literally, WTF. And at the time I was fully in, and I still cussed.

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Midweek meeting video

by aboveusonlysky in

did anybody see the service meeting video this week?.

australian sister was sexually abused as a child and thought of ending her life at 14 years old, sometime later jw's call on her father who accepts a study and eventually the whole family becomes witnesses, life gets much better as the sister immerses herself in pioneering etc, she still has some dark days but prayer along with going for walks and swimming has helped her cope with bad memories of child abuse, the new system (just around the corner) will completely fix everything......... i'm dumbfounded, the hypocrisy has literally rendered me speechless......comments anybody?.

LevelThePlayingField

comments...sure. The JW's or the Governing Body, I should say, see nothing wrong with this at all. It's not hypocrisy in anyway to them. This is simply about a woman, who like many others were a victim of sexual child abuse and found out the truth according to the JW's. It's got nothing to do with what's happening with "God's organization". Sorry to tell it to you like that, but that's exactly how many a JW will see this video.

If I had $10 in my pocket and told you that you could go to ten JW's and ask them if they heard about the Royal Commission in Australia as regards to their hearing with Jehovah's Witnesses, I think I could tell you that I probably would still have my $10 in my pocket after you talked to 10 of them, because they most likely don't have a clue what happened a year ago with their very own religion, even though one of their own, that is, one of the Governing Body members was hailed before their highest court in the county. He had to testify as to what their faith was about, how their system of worship is conducted and explain their current tactics for dealing with child sexual abuse for their global religion of 8.2 million witnesses. This should have made news on their one website called, JW.org but it never did because for the most part, they all looked like fools in front of the camera.

So, is it hypocrisy, yes in a way it really is. They should be more transparent about it, but if you talk to a JW, they will see nothing wrong with it. But good for you for seeing it for what it truly is.

So with that said, the governing body of the JW's may have brought this out to help their own deal with such atrocities. Who really knows how they think for sure, but trust me one thing, they don't think it's a real problem with in their organization.

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Taking the Bible Lessons And Going To a KH For First Time

by Cold Steel in

i've taken the bible lessons but have never attended a kingdom hall.

i was curious as to what point they begin to tighten the screws of control?

let's say you're a baptist.

LevelThePlayingField

Like what was said, it's after you convert to be an actual JW and get baptized as one (usually takes 8 months to 2 years depending on the person) that they will put the thumb screws to you.

See, as long as you are actually NOT one of Jehovah's Witnesses yet, they really can't do anything official to you. They won't shun you for the most part, they won't hold things against you that are forbidden. But once you take the dunk as Londo111 said, then they have a reason to enforce all of their prohibitions against you.

For example, say you are smoker. They won't say a whole lot about it. They might mention that JW's don't smoke. They will probably show the scripture for that (2 Co 7:1) "to remove all defilement of the flesh" and then just move on and "let you decide what you want to do with it".

But once you are baptized "all of that", many other things, are supposed to be taken care of and done with, including celebrating the holidays of any kind for whatever reason. If you were to smoke again and someone noticed it, then they would report you to the elders and they would have a judicial committee with you. That's where they determine if you are really repentant about this "gross sin" that you have committed and if you are then they just tell the whole congregation that you "have been reproved". But if the elders don't feel that you are really sorry about smoking then they disfellowship you and announce that you, "are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" and then no one who is a JW will talk to you, greet you or have anything to do with you forever, unless you sit at the hall for at least 8 months to a year "in silence" and then write a letter to the same elders and tell them how so sorry you are and that such a thing will never happen again. Then after the waiting period of say 8 months to a year or maybe longer, they will meet with you and you'll have to explain to them that you no longer smoke, hate such a thing and that you have read all the Watchtowers for each meeting and have studied them for such meetings and am ready to be "reinstated" back into the congregation if the loving body of elders see such as you do too.

Then and only when the elders are satisfied to your true repentance can you get back into the congregation. Yes, you may attend all the meetings but no one will speak to you. They will ignore you completely and only after the elders have removed their disfellowshipping from you can you then be announced that, "so and so has been reinstated as one of Jehovah's Witnesses." And then even after that, people in the congregation will still be a little shy towards you, at least for a while because they don't know what you were disfellowshipped for in the first place. It could be anything. So after you get out to their door knocking for a month or so, then they will open up to you more.

I know this is quite a lot of info here. But just be aware of where you are treading, as the previous posts have brought out. It's all rosy and "full of paradise" from the door step, but once you become "one of us" then they change the tune a little.

Knowledge is power.

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How Will Armageddon Begin?

by Cold Steel in

and how long will it last?

and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?

the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.

LevelThePlayingField

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The governing body will let us know exactly 1 week ahead of time. But by then it will be too late, unless you think you can turn around in that week's time...

It's a son-of-a-gun to be on the outside. But it's better than being on the inside with our heads in the sand.

Armageddon will not arrive in your lifetime...

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What do you think would have happened to you if...

by LevelThePlayingField in

you found out about ttatt way back in the 70's or maybe the 80's (basically before the internet) and you thought that you were all alone in this knowledge?

what do you think would have happened to you?

no jehovahs-witness.com, no john cedars, no arc, no jwfacts.com and no crisis of conscience to fall back on.

LevelThePlayingField

So none of the posts above reflect that a person would be "all alone and with out any comfort". Instead it reflects that you would have found out about the truth about the org regardless of the internet and found freedom through friends regardless for the most part.

This is very encouraging to me. It shows me that it's the person, not the time or situation that lends that person to finding TTATT. It's a persons core that does it, am I right?

Good going friends.

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New blood cards came to our hall today

by LevelThePlayingField in

at the end of the meeting an elder, by way of announcements said there is a new blood document that he said would be passed out to every baptized member of the congregation by way of their service group overseer.

i knew this day was coming, just had no idea of when.

he said it was a simplified version and sure to make you sign up for suicide.

LevelThePlayingField

Wow. Then it seems like the GB wants to let the hospital liaison committee to have access to your medical records if at all possible. Being that the DPA said nothing of the kind here in Ohio, USA, I wonder if maybe there is some kind of Hippa law against that type of language. I'm sure that the GB thinks that if the hospital liaison committee can have access to a JW's medical records that's a good thing because then the committee can further assist them in a "no blood" approach.

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Composition of members of the Watch Tower Society at the annual meeting in 1945

by slimboyfat in

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just came across this info from 1946 yearbook.

it would be fascinating to have the same information on members at this year's annual meeting.

LevelThePlayingField

Good catch Slimboyfat. I wonder what it would be like back in those days if I was a person of black descent. How would that work when the attendant is counting everyone and then they see an African American in the audience and say, "ok, that's 5 black people now...".