I just got a call from the CO. He said that they are selling all the Kingdom Halls in the greater Cincinnati area.
Then my alarm clock went off, and I realized it was all just a dream.
Damn!
from what i understand, a letter was read this past week in regards to congregation reassignments and that the elders want to meet with people at their homes to tell them where they have been reassigned.
obviously, this would be due to the merging and dissolution of congregations.
can anyone confirm this?.
I just got a call from the CO. He said that they are selling all the Kingdom Halls in the greater Cincinnati area.
Then my alarm clock went off, and I realized it was all just a dream.
Damn!
from what i understand, a letter was read this past week in regards to congregation reassignments and that the elders want to meet with people at their homes to tell them where they have been reassigned.
obviously, this would be due to the merging and dissolution of congregations.
can anyone confirm this?.
Was just at the meeting tonight in Cincinnati. They announced there will be elders meeting in pubs homes to go over where they will be reassigned. Then they will post who will be in the KH on the information board in about a week or so.
Nice. :(
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Hey Stumpy - man, you really helped me wake up! All those articles that you put links to....I still have them saved in my hard drive in hopes that I can use them to help family.
Best to you!
again from the shepard the flock book, this is about dealing with child abuse, it gives the elders points to think about and discuss when deciding on child abuse cases.... "(5) what is the.
body believe that he can be trusted with children?
the following questions should be answered with re-.
I kind of think about it this way.
While waiting a traffic light, a tree falls onto a car, crushing the young man behind the wheel. The police ask the parents of the young man if he was "mature" for his age. They ask about his reputation and if he was a good student in school.
Then with this information gathered and in-hand, they make a determination if the young man was at fault or if it was just an unforeseen occurrence.
That's what I think of when the elders book asks these stupid-ass questions. If there's a crime, you don't evaluate the victim, you evaluate the facts.
hello!
could you give a link to the articles of the watchtower society, where they claim that information from the faithful and prudent slave comes from god and jesus christ.
and also, that magazines publish not people's thoughts, but god?.
*** w94 10/1 p. 8 The Bible—A Book Meant to Be Understood ***
CHANNEL TO UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE
JESUS assured us that after his death and resurrection, he would raise up a “faithful and discreet slave” that would serve as his channel of communication.(Matthew 24:45-47)” [...] “All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the “greatly diversified wisdom of God” can become known only through Jehovah’s channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave.—John 6:68.
Also, they governing body say that they are actually substituting for Christ. They changed their Bible and added the word "substituting" when it's not even in the Greek and NO other Bible uses such a word.
At 2 Corinthians 5:20, it says, “Therefore, we are ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us. As substitutes for Christ, we beg: “Become reconciled to God.”
“A few anointed members of “the Israel of God” still remain, and as Jesus’ brothers, they continue to act as “ambassadors substituting for Christ.” (2 Cor. 5:20) They have been appointed as a faithful and discreet slave class to care for and provide spiritual food for anointed ones and a growing crowd of Christians, who now include millions having the hope of living on earth forever.” (WT 1-15-10 p. 31 par. 14)
*** w13 7/15 p. 20 par. 2 “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?” ***
That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel.
*** w09 2/15 p. 27 par. 11 They “Keep Following the Lamb” ***
Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?
from: https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/.
(emphasis is mine).
“jehovah’s witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs.
From: https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/legal-resources/information/
(emphasis is mine)
“Jehovah’s Witnesses do not involve themselves in political issues or governmental affairs. They have no interest in attempting to influence governmental authorities. (John 15: 18; 17:14, 16) As a result of their spiritual values, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not involve themselves in lobbying, civil disobedience, or movements to seize power or bring about changes in governments or laws.”
From: https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/political-neutrality/
“Jehovah’s Witnesses remain politically neutral for religious reasons, based on what the Bible teaches. We do not lobby, vote for political parties or candidates, run for government office, or participate in any action to change governments.”
Notice that they say JW’s “have no interest in attempting to influence governmental authorities”.
Wasn’t the Governing Body endorsing a letter writing campaign “an attempt to influence governmental authorities”?
That was the very purpose for writing the letters; to attempt to influence the government of Russia not go through with the ban on JW’s.
They also said JW’s “do not involve themselves in...bringing about changes in governments”, and “We do not participate in any action to change governments”.
Wasn’t the letter writing campaign an action to try to change the government? That’s getting involved in “governmental affairs”.
So, according to their own literature, Jehovah’s Witnesses violate neutrality.
since i woke up and left i've been contacted by others i knew from my youth who've also left the cult.
also people around the world on facebook adding me out of the blue because we have mutual friends and they occasionally ask me stuff or share their story.. what i've noticed in the vast majority of cases, is that people are waking up not because of the arc or doctrine but apathy.
active jws are becoming less and less interested, less and less bothered.
All of this is true from what I see as well. I'm particularly thinking about the ministry. There is absolutely NO urgency any more. I remember back in the 80's when I got baptized there was actually pep-in-the-step of people.
Now, it's LONG breaks and socializing at a local McDonalds or what have you.
i just want to say something which the vast majority of jw's who are active, fading , hard-core, doubting or what have you who don't know about malawi and mexico.
i'm just ''over generalizing'' by saying the above, about most jw's who don't know about the mexico/malawi scandal.
i strongly encourage any jw who is doubting or ''wondering'' about this ''organization'' to browse jwfacts.com.. just watched the john cedars rebuttal of the 2018 regional convention the sunday program.
The governing body is like a dirty old man who was molesting several children for several years and then when all those children turned him in at the same time with video proof on all cases, the old man turns and says, "It wasn't me. It aint me, it's my twin brother." And he doesn't sweat, his doesn't flinch, he doesn't turn red from embarrassment. He just stands there completely convinced he is telling the truth.
Then he turns to all the children and says, "Come here. Give me a hug".
The Watchtower is really like that. So yes, Malawi, no problem.
imagine going to the door today and showing the householder a milk carton from 1980 with a missing child on it and asking, "have you ever seen this child?
" the householder looks and quickly says, "no i haven't, sorry.".
then the next door, same thing.
I remember going in the field ministry, I think it was for the second time and the elder I was with stuck his foot in the door and told the householder, "you're putting yourself in very precarious situation by doing that". That elder died about 2 years ago, and I'm sure the old man he was talking to is dead also.
Yikes.
https://youtu.be/f_wvcvooxlo.
I agree with joe134cd, yeah the Watchtower had watched the video. Too bad, so sad, so sorry, your dad.