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  This takes the cake

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..

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  It's funny that elder said that because the MS who reads the WT reads it from his smart phone right up on stage!
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  Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?

  he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.

  " so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?

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  So I phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "When did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935? He said, "No, I think I remember a convention talk about 1950." So anyway, I said, "So then let's say in the 20th century right? And so if 8 million plus people have gotten the truth in this last century and prior to that it was the heavenly calling, then why for almost 2000 years was there only 144,000 people that found God's favor?"

  He said, "I don't have an answer for that." And then went on to try to explain away about how the population now is so much more than it was way back then, and "if fact if you consider" all the inventions and blah, blah...

  I brought him right back to the original argument and asked him again, "So you mean to tell me then, of the countless millions and millions of people that lived that only a 100,000 plus people found God's favor in 2000 years but in the last 100 years 8 million did? How are we to understand that?"

  He said, "Some things you just have to take on faith. And you know these questions you have, sometimes we don't need to ask all these, well, we don't need to know all these questions or answers to all these questions do we? Really, if you think about it, there's a lot of things that we don't know, and we just accept them and wait for the Slave to clarify them"...and I can't recall everything of his rant after that.

  But I think this is a good questions to pose to Jdubs out there. They won't know how to answer either, or will they.
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  JW's Light's out in the court of public opinion- Rio Rancho Kingdom Hall

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt9xi0r9kvy

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  BTT
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  If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. social
  2. humour

  do the lottery.

  celebrate my child's birthday.

  sign workmates birthday cards.

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  Fellowship with the DF'd, drink to excess, oh, and the big one, READ APOSTATE LITERATURE!
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  We missed you at the meetings

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a vomit inducing comment.. i asked why do they have to specify 'meetings'?

  they never miss us in tesco or the showcase cinema bar.. in their defence, a friend of mine said: 'that's because the meeting is where they normally would see you.'.

  well, if they want to see you they can arrange a meal out or something.

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  I've actually had this said to me, along time ago when I missed a few meetings. My thought deep inside was that you really don't miss "me", you really don't know "me" because all you know is "me" at the meetings and that's it!

  You don't know me at home. You don't know me at work or at the bowling alley. You just know me at the meetings, pretty shallow!
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  INSPIRED ERROR: new phrase among JW CO

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  there is no end to their madness.

  the co gave a talk on inspired error.

  i have never heard of it.

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  Wannaexit - I had the same CO talk about a month ago! They take 1 scripture and twist it I tell you! They can make that into whatever they want to really. In 5 years they can something else about too! What gives!
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  What would you do if the Society Declares Bankruptcy

  by Quarterback in

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  2. friends

  special pioneers let go.

  bethel workers laid off.

  construction halts, what's next?

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  First off, they won't, but to play all, if they did, I'd party like it's 1999! Then I'd tell my wife who's in 100%, "I told you so!"
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  Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

  http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

  the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

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  OMG, Data Dog - you said it, "that public wants Jesus and they are willing to pay for him". You are so right.
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  Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".

  http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .

  the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.

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  The WT Nov. 15, 2015 study edition on page 23 says:

  HAVE LOVE FOR FELLOW WORSHIPPERS

  8 Throughout the earth, there are millions who worship Jehovah and bear witness to his name and purpose. How should each worshipper of Jehovah view his fellow Witnesses?

  8. How should worshippers of Jehovah view fellow Christians?

  You can't make this stuff up!
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  Jehovah’s Witness jailed for sexual activity with a child

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  source: http://stratfordobserver.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-jailed-for-sexual-activity-with-a-child-8997/.

  a jehovahs witness from stratford who took part in sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl has been struggling with those demons for the last seven or eight years, a judge has heard.. but pleas for craig allen, who was said to have support from the jehovahs witness congregation, not to be jailed cut no ice with a judge at warwick crown court.. the 43 year-old of evesham road, dodwell, was jailed for two years and eight months and ordered to register as a sex offender for life after he pleaded guilty to two charges of sexual activity with a child.. prosecutor andrew wallace said allen had met the girl in the mid-2000s through the church.. the girl, now a young woman in her 20s, said she began to fancy allen, who had started to pay her compliments.. then on one occasion when he gave her a lift, despite being fully aware she was only 15, allen sexually touched her.. she did not object or tell anyone what had happened, and there were further consensual incidents between them, including various types of sexual activity but not full intercourse.. someone who suspected what was going on between allen, a family man in his 30s, and the girl said something to her mother.. but when she challenged both her daughter and allen about what she had heard, they both denied it.. things stopped after the girl began to feel guilty about what was happening, and she eventually decided to come forward last year and contacted the police.. she said she had been dramatically affected by what had gone on, and that what happened with allen caused her to suffer a breakdown and still haunted her.. when allen was questioned by the police he accepted the incidents had taken place, but claimed it was the girl who had taken the lead.. elizabeth power, defending, said allen, who has a son and a daughter who were now both in their 20s, had attended for a voluntary interview with the police and made admissions.. he did not force himself on her but he was the adult and she was a child.

  he says he was weak and was attracted to her.

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  Source: http://stratfordobserver.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-jailed-for-sexual-activity-with-a-child-8997/

  A JEHOVAH’S Witness from Stratford who took part in sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl has been ‘struggling with those demons’ for the last seven or eight years, a judge has heard.

  But pleas for Craig Allen, who was said to have support from the Jehovah’s Witness congregation, not to be jailed cut no ice with a judge at Warwick Crown Court.

  The 43 year-old of Evesham Road, Dodwell, was jailed for two years and eight months and ordered to register as a sex offender for life after he pleaded guilty to two charges of sexual activity with a child.

  Prosecutor Andrew Wallace said Allen had met the girl in the mid-2000s through the church.

  The girl, now a young woman in her 20s, said she began to fancy Allen, who had started to pay her compliments.

  Then on one occasion when he gave her a lift, despite being fully aware she was only 15, Allen sexually touched her.

  She did not object or tell anyone what had happened, and there were further consensual incidents between them, including various types of sexual activity but not full intercourse.

  Someone who suspected what was going on between Allen, a family man in his 30s, and the girl said something to her mother.

  But when she challenged both her daughter and Allen about what she had heard, they both denied it.

  Things stopped after the girl began to feel guilty about what was happening, and she eventually decided to come forward last year and contacted the police.

  She said she had been dramatically affected by what had gone on, and that what happened with Allen caused her to suffer a breakdown and still haunted her.

  When Allen was questioned by the police he accepted the incidents had taken place, but claimed it was the girl who had taken the lead.

  Elizabeth Power, defending, said Allen, who has a son and a daughter who were now both in their 20s, had attended for a voluntary interview with the police and made admissions.

  “He did not force himself on her – but he was the adult and she was a child. He says he was weak and was attracted to her. He has had the last seven or eight years struggling with those demons.

  Miss Power said Allen, who had a number of debts, runs his own building business and was the main provider for his family.

  Jailing Allen, Judge Sylvia de Bertodano told him: “I quite accept that whatever happened, she was a willing participant in it; but you took advantage of the fact that she was 20 years younger than you, and a child.

  “This has effectively ruined your reputation. You are lucky your wife is standing by you, and you are a member of a church which is supportive of you as well.

  “But the message has to go out that if men in their mid-30s repeatedly engage in sexual activity with under-age children, they will go to prison.”