I appreciate all of your answers, thank you.
LevelThePlayingField
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Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?
by LevelThePlayingField inso i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?
he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.
" so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?
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This takes the cake
by Sour Grapes intoday during the public talk the speaker said that satan was behind the new modern phones, which are like mini computers, so that the world would have easy access to pornography..
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LevelThePlayingField
It's funny that elder said that because the MS who reads the WT reads it from his smart phone right up on stage! -
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Only 144,000 saved in 2000 years?
by LevelThePlayingField inso i phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "when did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935?
he said, "no, i think i remember a convention talk about 1950.
" so anyway, i said, "so then let's say in the 20th century right?
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LevelThePlayingField
So I phoned an elder in the cong and asked him: "When did the calling for the great crowd start, was it 1935? He said, "No, I think I remember a convention talk about 1950." So anyway, I said, "So then let's say in the 20th century right? And so if 8 million plus people have gotten the truth in this last century and prior to that it was the heavenly calling, then why for almost 2000 years was there only 144,000 people that found God's favor?"
He said, "I don't have an answer for that." And then went on to try to explain away about how the population now is so much more than it was way back then, and "if fact if you consider" all the inventions and blah, blah...
I brought him right back to the original argument and asked him again, "So you mean to tell me then, of the countless millions and millions of people that lived that only a 100,000 plus people found God's favor in 2000 years but in the last 100 years 8 million did? How are we to understand that?"
He said, "Some things you just have to take on faith. And you know these questions you have, sometimes we don't need to ask all these, well, we don't need to know all these questions or answers to all these questions do we? Really, if you think about it, there's a lot of things that we don't know, and we just accept them and wait for the Slave to clarify them"...and I can't recall everything of his rant after that.
But I think this is a good questions to pose to Jdubs out there. They won't know how to answer either, or will they.
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JW's Light's out in the court of public opinion- Rio Rancho Kingdom Hall
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt9xi0r9kvy
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If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?
by Truthexplorer indo the lottery.
celebrate my child's birthday.
sign workmates birthday cards.
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Fellowship with the DF'd, drink to excess, oh, and the big one, READ APOSTATE LITERATURE! -
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We missed you at the meetings
by punkofnice ina vomit inducing comment.. i asked why do they have to specify 'meetings'?
they never miss us in tesco or the showcase cinema bar.. in their defence, a friend of mine said: 'that's because the meeting is where they normally would see you.'.
well, if they want to see you they can arrange a meal out or something.
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LevelThePlayingField
I've actually had this said to me, along time ago when I missed a few meetings. My thought deep inside was that you really don't miss "me", you really don't know "me" because all you know is "me" at the meetings and that's it!
You don't know me at home. You don't know me at work or at the bowling alley. You just know me at the meetings, pretty shallow!
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INSPIRED ERROR: new phrase among JW CO
by wannaexit inthere is no end to their madness.
the co gave a talk on inspired error.
i have never heard of it.
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LevelThePlayingField
Wannaexit - I had the same CO talk about a month ago! They take 1 scripture and twist it I tell you! They can make that into whatever they want to really. In 5 years they can something else about too! What gives! -
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What would you do if the Society Declares Bankruptcy
by Quarterback inspecial pioneers let go.
bethel workers laid off.
construction halts, what's next?
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First off, they won't, but to play all, if they did, I'd party like it's 1999! Then I'd tell my wife who's in 100%, "I told you so!" -
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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!
by The Searcher inaccording to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".
http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .
the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.
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OMG, Data Dog - you said it, "that public wants Jesus and they are willing to pay for him". You are so right. -
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Intriguing - but Unsubstantiated!
by The Searcher inaccording to one source on a western european 'apostate' website, the org's plan is to abandon the name "jehovah's witnesses" in the future, and replace it with "worshippers of jehovah.".
http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/fixnews/#comment-4313 .
the gist of the account appears to be a repeat of rutherford's re-branding and debunking of old predictions made by the previous shower of fakers.
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LevelThePlayingField
The WT Nov. 15, 2015 study edition on page 23 says:
HAVE LOVE FOR FELLOW WORSHIPPERS
8 Throughout the earth, there are millions who worship Jehovah and bear witness to his name and purpose. How should each worshipper of Jehovah view his fellow Witnesses?
8. How should worshippers of Jehovah view fellow Christians?
You can't make this stuff up!