This may help: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/151482/1.ashx
yesidid
where/if i could find it somewhere?
thanks.
orb.
This may help: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/151482/1.ashx
yesidid
there seems to be a very important announcement this coming weeking on the next service meeting, forme it will be on wednesday 30th jan.. during the last 2 meetings they have asked that every batized jw be at that meeting and even to tell others who might not have heard the annoucement.. anyone here have any ideas i wouldn't be surprised if they are changing meeting times and arrangments...less meeting at is !.
What ever it is it's local, otherwise other congs would have made the same announcement,
and they haven't, cos we aint heard nutten.
yesidid
hi brant,.
i don't want to send a pm because i want all the newbies to benefit from your great work.. your letters to the wbts re the un scandal, were excellent and should be read by all.
unfortunately the link in the thread you posted in '06 has died.
Hi Brant,
I don't want to send a PM because I want all the newbies to benefit from your great work.
Your letters to the WBTS re the UN scandal, were excellent and should be read by all.
Unfortunately the link in the thread you posted in '06 has died. Could you please make them
available for me and all the new ones who have not had the opportunity to read them.
yesidid
PS I need them to help a sincere, active Witnesss friend.
i wrote the wt for a year before i was df'd over the wt-un/dpi-ngo deal.
i have all of my letters, the wt jerkoff letter back to me as well as a compilation of a simple little brochure, documenting that the wt was more involved with the un than for a library card.
if you would like to see and read it, i would like your feedback.
Hi Brant,
I brought this thread to the top because I would like others to benefit from the letters you sent to the WBTS.
Unfortunately the link you gave at the top of this thread is no longer active and I would like to give the info to
a dear friend who is faithful, but questioning Witness.
Is there some way we can get our hands your letters?
BTW I remember them as really excellent. Thank you for a job well done.
yesidid
barbara anderson's comments from her cd compilation:.
secrets of pedophilia in an american religionjehovah's witnesses in crisis.
update 1/17/08: barbara anderson has released her nearly 100-page commentary found on the cd, secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis, for general distribution.
You're probably getting tired of seeing this thread come to the top so many times, but we have to remember the new ones and lurkers who need to see this information and share it with others
Not at all, it's very important that it be exposed the the maximum audience.
I too, would like to thank you Barbara, for all the time and effort you have spent helping the "the little children".
The sign of a true Christian.
yesidid
if you're here, it's likely you were once fooled by what the jws believe.. back then, i expect you thought you were smart.
you thought you could tell if you were being lied to.
yet, they got past your mental defenses and sucked you in.. knowing this, how can you be sure your current religious beliefs are true?.
I don't follow any religion and I don't believe in any god. How do I know I'm right to dismiss them so easily? I see no reason at all to believe in a god. I dismiss the god idea the same way I dismiss fairies, monsters and other mythological creatures. I dismiss the god of the Bible the same way Christians dismiss every other god without a second thought. I think I'm being consistent, where others aren't.
I magine you have also left open the possibility that you could be wrong about all the above.
yesidid
ok, so right on the cusp of my awakening, i had a sorta-bible study with the man who had almost died in a nasty car wreak .
(he was saved by a like a gallon of tranfused blood, btw).
when i stopped going out in service, the study was taken over by a rather dimwitted witness on conservative side .
I would never recommend that sixscreensofthewatchtower website. It has great graphics, etc, but it is completely over the top. It's full of emotionalism and vitrolic hatred for the Society. The whole website gives me the creeps.
I absolutely agree. Had I seen that as I was leaving, I would have rushed back so fast.
It just confirms what the WT says about "apostates".
but they say that they have god's holy spirit... whats the difference?
" in·spired,
v.tr.1. To affect, guide, or arouse by divine influence.
So to be inspired in this instance would mean one would be affected, guided or
aroused by the Holy Spirit. JR Brown says that that does not happen in the organization.
Fair enough. I don’t think we would argue with that.
Where it becomes a little tricky is: What then is "Spirit directed"?.
Seeing that expression is not found in the Bible (I checked the Watchtower CD) let us work it out.
We all know what Spirit means.
Now what about directed:
di·rect·ed,
v.tr.1. To manage or conduct the affairs of; regulate.
2. To have or take charge of; control.
So they are actually saying the "Holy Spirit" has taken charge, is managing and controlling the organization.
Then comes the question: How could one be DIRECTED,(controlled or managed) by the Holy Spirit but not "inspired", keeping in mind that Inspired means affected, guided or aroused by divine influence (Holy Spirit).
So the claim of "Spirit directed" is actually greater than "Inspired".
Ps This is copied from someone, but I don't remember who, so I can't give credit. Sorry.
yesidid
1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
The writing Dept ( Barr) wants to implement change, and the service committee (Jaracz) does not.
This is interesting but not exactly new. Service and writing have had a volatile relationship since Ted J took over the reins of service and
he has always been against change. ISo what is new about the situation?
the holocaust was a 20th century inquisition done under cover of the nazi party.
hitler was catholic; and when it became known that pope pius xi supported hitler, the roman catholic vote swept hitler into power in 1933.
read what the press of the spanish dictator, franco, published following hitler's death.
Hitler's Pope is a book published in 1999 by the Catholic ex-seminarian, historian, and journalist John Cornwell
Cornwell, like other scholars, made use of the Vatican archives to research the conduct of Eugenio Pacelli, both as Nuncio to Germany and as Pope.
He explains how he began his book as a defense of Pius XII from claims that he could have done more to prevent or mitigate the Holocaust, the
genocide of European Jews under Adolf Hitler, but that something unexpected happened along the way. "By the middle of 1997," he wrote,
"nearing the end of my research, I found myself in a state I can only describe as moral shock. The material I had gathered, taking the more
extensive view of Pacelli's life, amounted not to an exoneration but to a wider indictment." [3] Cornwell, relying on exclusive access to Vatican
and Jesuit archives, argues that through a 1933 Concordat with Hitler, his anti-Semitic tendencies early on, and his drive to promote papal
absolutism inexorably led him to collaboration with fascist leaders. Thus, according to Cornwell, Pope Pius XII facilitated the dictator's rise and, ultimately, the Holocaust