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  The New World Translation

  by MrsQ in

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  can anyone give me an explanation of how the nw translation came about?

  who, exactly, were on this bible translation committee, and what were their qualifications?

  when was it first published?.

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  setfreefinally

  Scholar, I think you are funnin with us now. C'mon admit it, I know you are. Nobody makes comments like you just did without it being tongue in cheek. LOL
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
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  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  setfreefinally

  Fascinating stuff!!!

  I appreciate very much everyones work here, including Scholars!
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  setfreefinally

  Thanks for editing Plum's unnecessary remarks out Onacruse. It serves no purpose to use language like that. It takes all the enjoyment out of reading this thread to have things like that unnecessarily posted. If he doesnt care about this thread/discussion then why post here at all.
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  setfreefinally

  *** it-1 p. 1269 Jehoiakim ***

  Second Kings 24:1 shows that Nebuchadnezzar brought pressure upon the Judean king "and so Jehoiakim became his servant [or vassal] for three years. However, he [Jehoiakim] turned back and rebelled against him [Nebuchadnezzar]." Evidently it is to this third year of Jehoiakim as a vassal king under Babylon that Daniel refers at Daniel 1:1. It could not be Jehoiakim’s third year of his 11-year reign over Judah, for at that time Jehoiakim was a vassal, not to Babylon, but to Egypt’s Pharaoh Necho. It was not until Jehoiakim’s fourth year of rule over Judah that Nebuchadnezzar demolished Egyptian domination over Syria-Palestine by his victory at Carchemish (625 B.C.E. [apparently after Nisan]). (Jer 46:2) Since Jehoiakim’s revolt against Babylon led to his downfall after about 11 years on the throne, the beginning of his three-year vassalage to Babylon must have begun toward the end of his eighth year of rule, or early in 620 B.C.E
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  The WT G.B. doesn’t want Jesus to come and rule the Earth.

  by D wiltshire in

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  the wt g.b.

  doesnt want jesus to come and rule the earth.

  john 11:45-48.

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  setfreefinally

  I always read your posts D wiltshire! Especially after you kindly commented on my thread about God and time.

  I tend to agree with you the the GB fears that when Jesus does return they will be judged unfavorably. If they dont they sure as heck should.

  SFF
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
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  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  setfreefinally

  Cmon Scholar,

  You need to help us out here! If you believe it is necessary for us (non jws) to accept 607 or suffer the second death at armageddon you kindly need come up with some refutation of the points made by alleymom and AlanF and others instead of weedling your way out of it.

  If God really expects us to accept 607 versus 586/7 why did he let Satan screw things up so badly that 99 percent of present day scholars of this topic believe it to be 586/7? The appt of the bible students in 1919 hinges on this very thing doesn't it?

  Does God want 99 percent of us to be destroyed because he (God) failed to keep the ancient tablets decipherable?

  In your opinion do we need the uncovering of ancient tablets (worldy or pagan by WTS standards) to verify the appt of the WTS in 1919? Shouldn't the bible, supposedly the only inspired book, be the only book we would need to figure out the way of salvation? In other words do we NEED ancient secular tablets of PAGAN origin, decipher these to the correct date, figure out or find out who is teaching this date, join this group, and believe everything they tell us as a direct gift or light from God or be destroyed?

  Those of us nonscholars (without BMA studies in religion) here are depending on you?

  SFF

  Why am I stuck in red?
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  Moral absolutes

  by Aztec in

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  i keep saying i am going to start a thread on this topic so here goes.... what, if anything, is always morally wrong?

  murder, rape, incest?

  how much do you think your belief, or lack thereof, in a higher power influences your opinion?.

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  setfreefinally

  If you read the old testament there were times when God condoned or even ordered the killing of women infants and children. So is murder wrong or morally wrong when God orders it??
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  Can God exist outside of time

  by setfreefinally in

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  some say god exists outside of time and space therefore he can predict the future.. any comments?

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  setfreefinally

  So Setfree, I have a question, did you realize you were an atheist before you made this post?

  Don’t take offense, just musing with you.

  No I didnt realize that!
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  Furuli's New Books--Attempt to Refute COJonsson

  by ros in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just heard that the norwegian watchtower apologist, rolf furuli, who esteems himself a biblical scholar of semetic languages, has completed the first of two volumes he plans to publish on the societys chronology, assyrian, babylonian, egyptian and persian chronology compared with the chronology of the bible.. title of this first volume is: persian chronology and the length of the babylonian exile of the jews.. i hear that although carl olof jonsson is not mentioned by name, or reference made to his book "gentile times reconsidered," it is nevertheless apparent that these volumes are an attempt to refute jonssons excellent study which has exposed the watchtowers 1914 date as total folly.. .

  the book can be ordered now from furulis new personal website:.

  http://folk.uio.no/rolffu/.

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  setfreefinally

  Scholar said:

  Alan F as usual rants and raves in frustration and one suspects if he had a chance he would be a good book burner. He would destroy all books that clash with his pet theories. Do not give him the keys to the library.

  Actually I think Alan strives very hard to get to the bottom of the issue and strives to give an honest assessment of both sides of an issue. I also appreciate it very much when both parties remain civil with each other and just present the facts and or misconceptions from both sides and let the reader determine what is most accurate way of looking at a point of contention or belief.

  BTW, I did take you up on your offer to read COJ's GTR book. I haven't finished it yet. I realize the both of you have done a lot more research than most of us on this board and I really appreciate hearing from both of you as I can glean important information without having to spend years at the library or spending hundreds of dollars on books.

  SFF
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  586/587 the K.I.S.S. approach --- no VAT4956, Ptolemy, Josephus needed

  by Alleymom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  nabonidus -- 17 years.

  nebuchadnezzar -- 43 years.

  nabonidus -- 17 years

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  setfreefinally

  Hi Marjorie,

  Another excellent post. I'm so glad you're here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  I will second that. It is really great that there are those here who have taken the time to do the research and get down to the nitty gritty!!!!