Posts by joe134cd

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

18 you may choose to get married.

the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

joe134cd

Interestingly I just attended an engagement party of an ultra orthodox, JW, relative of mine. I couldn’t help but think the same thing. Here were my observations:

- His fleshly sister. Married for less than 2 years was siting on the opposite side to her husband, the whole evening. In subsequent conversations with the parents it wouldn’t surprise me if there were problems. Tbh other than JWism that’s all they really have in common. I think if it hadn’t been for the religion, probably would have never gotten together. Would of had sex, and the relationship would of died in the natural course of things

She was nearly 20, and he was early 20s. It would be unfair of me to judge someone on their appearance as the first time I saw the guy was on the wedding day. My initial impression was of a guy who looked like a young boy. I remember thinking I hope he doesn’t act the same way he looks.

- at the engagement I heard of numerous weddings and engagements that had been happening in the local JW area. I’d assume all late teens, early 20. I couldn’t help but think, how many will end up in divorce in a few years time.

Both my relatives, the one engaged, and the one presently married. We’re not even 22, and married the first person they dated. I’m just so glad I am out of all that nonsense.

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How Much of Russell and Rutherford is Left?

by NotFormer in

russell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.

how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?

what are the big changes that they would see?.

joe134cd

Russel founded it. Rutherford formed it, to what it would become, and not for the better. Nathan took it to the world. But I can’t help but think that Freddie may of been pulling the strings for a very long time.

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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

by EasyPrompt in

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

"by bill hickman of rnz.

the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

joe134cd

Just wondering did anybody get the opportunity to attend the court hearing in Wellington, on the 10th of October.

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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

by EasyPrompt in

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

"by bill hickman of rnz.

the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

joe134cd

I really do hope this makes it to prime time news on television.

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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

by BoogerMan in

this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

joe134cd

Stan live death / Vidiot - yes I was thinking along the same lines. Same story with ending the book study, as a meeting point for when the great tribulation starts. In reality it just become to much of a liability if anything went down during a Wt sanctioned event.

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

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this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

joe134cd

TM3 needs to be taken out of that house, and put in an area that has better security. At least a high fence which doesn’t allow anyone direct access to his front door. I can’t understand why WT thought that this might not be an issue. That guy is going to end up getting seriously assaulted.

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Interesting experience with my PIMI Father

by joe134cd in

this highlights just how flawed the jw thinking is.

recently, it had been arranged for another jw to take my father to the convention in a couple of weeks time.

a few days ago my father is informed that his ride has refused to drive him due to his underlying health conditions.

joe134cd

This highlights just how flawed the JW thinking is. Recently, It had been arranged for another JW to take my father to the convention in a couple of weeks time. A few days ago my father is informed that his ride has refused to drive him due to his underlying health conditions.

To be fair my father isn’t in the best of health, but I certainly thought that refusing to take him up there was unwarranted. Ok, I thought, this isn’t a problem I’ll drive him up, and I also offer a ride to the person who refused to take my Father. As this person is also elderly as well, but not incapable.

I got to thinking about this. Here is a person, who out of agape love will lay down their life for the sake of my father during the great tribulation. Yet couldn’t lay down his life for the sake of driving him a few 100km. Yet an apostate, who Jehovah is going to destroy at the great tribulation, laying down his life for both of them, and at the same time, doing it in his own car and dime. I would refuse to take money of this guy as he’s also a pensioner as well. Just blows my mind really.

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The Great "Dumbing Down"?

by NotFormer in

a few old timers on here often refer to the dumbing down of the jw organisation.

what examples can you think of from over the years?

(i ask as an interested outsider who was never in).

joe134cd

Talking about turning into drones. I recently had an ultra Orthodox Pioneer Cousin. Look me straight in the face face and say “Wt has always encouraged using the internet for evangelising. You’re going to love this one “Wt has never had an issue with growing beards.” I just give up with these people,

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joe134cd

If Tibor is a disgruntled worker, and decides to go live with what happened. This could be the thing that sinks Lloyd. If it was a toss up between the end of L.E or the end of WT. I think I’d choose LE.

It’s a real shame really, as his online work and research has been nothing but first class. I’ve been watching him ever since he started, and he was very instrumental in my decision to leave. It’s just a shame that his off screen antics have are now the thing that has tarnished his online presence. Such a shame really.

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If JW is not the truth, then what is the true religion?

by TxNVSue2023 in

even though i'm disfellowshiped ( & i belive wrongfully so).

i still belive this is the truth.

i have been d'f for about 8 months now and working on reinstatement.

joe134cd

I attended the Iglesia ni Christo. For about 6 months. There has a lot been said about the InC on JW forums over the years, as there are striking similarities between both groups. Due to Felix Manalo, the founder, connections with the JWs in his early life. Many JW/Adventist concepts he borrowed and adopted into his church. I really wanted to investigate this group from the perspective of understanding my JWisim. Tbh I found the culture in the InC to be more controlling than the JWs e.g blocked out windows, a card system to track those attending, and the cash I saw been handed over was breathtaking. What sadend me was most of this money was coming from new immigrants who could least afford to give.