Oh shit I never thought of using that as a reason for knowing things so far in advance.
joe134cd
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does the org monitor this site?
by venting ini,m sure they would like to find out the names of some who post here.
venting..
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Dating Advice needed
by KateWild inwell i joined two dating sites yesterday and i have had lots of messages.
a couple of guys want to chat to me by phone to get to know me better.
i've been asked out on two dates.
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joe134cd
In the initial stages I have no problem with someone going on other dates with people. I mean you don't buy the first car you test ride do you. I say get to know other people, and in fact I openly encourage it. However on saying that if after a year or two, and the person was still playing the same game then that's a different story.
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does the org monitor this site?
by venting ini,m sure they would like to find out the names of some who post here.
venting..
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joe134cd
I believe they would be fools if they didn't. Hunting people down vs copy right infringement thats about the only thing they can do with any teeth to it, as it's a free world I can say what I like, and been a faceless person is a beautiful thing. The one thing that surprises me is just how quickly information spreads on sites like this. In every case I'm finding out information weeks sometimes months before it's read to the R&F. I remember on the day of the AGM a brother thinking he was well ahead of the game with knowing about the new Bible. I just thought if only he really knew. Sometimes I'm finding out things so far in advance I physically have to keep my mouth shut, as I wouldn't be able to explain how I knew. It surprises me really that Wt isn't been more transparent with its policies and procedures (e.g reading half letters for donations) because they would have to realise if they aren't then there will be some mentally diseased apostate who is only to happy to share, and they won't have a great deal of diplomacy in how they do it.
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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends
by Tech49 inhere we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.
although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.
not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.
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joe134cd
To be honest I would be thankfull that no one is interested in knowing where you are. Below is a comment that I have copied from the above mentioned thread.
Frazzled UBM= As an outsider I find this discussion interesting. The congs are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they do chase up faders then this is harrassment and if they don't it is uncaring. Personally I would love it if my wife's 'friends' didn't call her every time she misses a meeting. I think this form of subtle pressure makes her go back the next week.
yeah I agree with you ( and I was the one who started the thread). I just find it puzzling, with the amount of people they lose every year, why they arnt been more proactive. Don't get me wrong I'm happy it worked out the way it did, and it saved me a lot of stress with having to deal with them. But what I thought would be the case, was exactly the opposite.
Even as I look back on past events e.g deceased sister in cong who I never knew who died. I have to ask myself just how I could not have known.
The thing that I find totally ironic. Is how they are prepared to spend 1000s of hours for a new recruit, and yet not even know the person had died. In the TMS If you were to count the time allotted to finding a new recruit as apposed to retaining him, it would be telling. I think the problem that Wt is having trouble understanding, is the reason for poor growth (particularly in western lands) is the out ward flow of people. When you look at the figures and see that for every increase in publisher one baptised person is leaving. 2/3 of the youth are leaving. JW have the lowest retention rate of any main religion. One has to ask would that time and money be better spent on retention rather than on magazine distribution. I work with this penticostal guy and he quite often talks about team building events that is openly encouraged, and in some cases subsidised by the church. They have church councillors who have had secular training, to help not only it's members but also outsiders who may want assistance. These things are not only helping it's members not to secumb to the pressures of the world e.g drugs, gambling, sex etc but also inevitably retaining them. Wt chooses to solve the problem at the other end by disfellowshipping the unrepentant sinner once the problem is out of control.
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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends
by Tech49 inhere we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.
although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.
not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.
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This subject interests me deeply, and below is a recent post discussing my observations.
The thing that really baffles me, is how an organisation is prepared to spend millions of dollars and countless hours in recruitment, and yet will do virtually nothing in caring or retaining that member( sorry unless it's for a JC, or to ask why you arnt out knocking on doors). I believe the answer to growth isn't in the door to door recruitment, but more in caring and retaining it's current membership. I see other religions who are spending big money on its youth programs and trying to creat a sense of community with in its organisation, which in turn helps to retain it's membership. I believe watchtowers money would be far better spent on retaining rather than on recruitment.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: Hypocrisy on steroids
by Watchtower-Free infound this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eot8sac9-no.
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joe134cd
I was embarrassed to watch it. My advise is get on the internet "it's far more beneficial".
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Anyone Knows/Heard that New Congregation in the UK Don't Qualify for Charitable Status?
by Da.Furious infollowing from cedars blog.. based on what an elder told me, new congregations in uk are not eligible anymore for charitable status.
i am a member of such new congregation and they dont have charitable status.
i have searched on http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/find-charities/ and couldnt find it.
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joe134cd
Interesting
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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.
by donuthole inwhen rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.
some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.
a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".
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Donuthole- firstly I must commend you on your fine, thought provoking writing. I very much enjoy reading your threads. In some ways I sort of feel excited that I am living in such an important error of watchtower history, and with anticipation I am waiting to see how event unfold.
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CONGREGATION FLEECING RESULTS?
by The Searcher inhow much did your congregation and its bank account get taken for?
share your horror story!.
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joe134cd
I think one thing we can all be assured of is the Wt won't be on the losing. Trust me they have done their home work.
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Anyone recall asemblies actually being fun?
by tim hooper inwhen i was a wee lad, there was a carnival atmosphere at assemblies as this old footage will show:.
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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/witnesses-baptised/query/jehovahs+witnesses.
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joe134cd
Sorry you got me on that one. More of a pain in the arse really.