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  Melbourne Convention Protest

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi all.. i didn't want to post this in private because i want all to see what i saw.. the protest at the melbourne convention went superbly in my opinion.

  the protesters and their banners were more than eloquent and succinct.

  you could feel the emotion they all conveyed.

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  I'm in 2 minds about the effectiveness of this, as to weather you are waking them up, or giving them reinforcement to their beliefs. That been said, however, I remember a few years back with a similar protest in Poland. The protestors were advertising a ex-JW website in the polish language. They published the stats, which showed a sharp increase in first time visitors to the site, both during and shortly after the convention. It would be interesting to see if there was any anomaly in visits to jwfacts during this convention period, and just where they were coming from.
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  They are Still preaching against careers!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw on another forum a post somebody made about the melbourne assembly.

  it seems the religion is still knocking full time jobs/careers and saving for retirement.. you would think at this point in time - after thousands of bethelites were sent home; many thousands of rank & file jws are at or near retirement age with no preparation - that the religion would change its tune, but no.

  they are still stubbornly sticking to their guns on this issue.. i’m sorry for any young jws who listen to this.. i’m just glad i never followed their advice and certainly would not want to be in any congregation surrounded by these desperate people!.

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  Yeah I’m glad too I never followed their advice. I got into rental property investment. I now own 3 rental property investments, with one to follow.
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  10 Year Growth Chart

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some visuals to help show what is going on with the jw numbers game.

  i am not a numbers guy and there maybe a few errors (info directly from grand total pages on jw.borg).

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  If it’s anything to go by. In my relatives cong there have been 4 deaths this year, out of 100 publishers. Considering that the mean age of JWs are increasing I would suspect that their death rate would be higher than the average population.
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  How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".

  i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.

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  I believed for a number of years that Jesus would of had to of died on the cross. I thought the 1914-1919 thing was just shear coincidence that WW1 coincided with those date. Cedar Point ohio and that revelation book was just nonsense.
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  2019 Service Year Report Grand Total

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower is thrilled with the amount baptised in the 2019 service year.

  they are reporting an increase in publishers of 103,208 from the 2018 year.. this is what they have posted under global news on their website -.

  2019 service year report includes largest baptismal figure in 20 yearswe are thrilled to announce that during the 2019 service year, more than 300,000 individuals were baptized as jehovah’s witnesses.

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  If it means anything, there have been 4 deaths in the cong that my grandfather went to. This cong has about 100 publishers, mostly upper middle aged and older
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  JW's growth dwarfed by a sect of Islam!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. current

  the new islamic sect started just after russell kicked off his new religion.

  they also used volunteers to help build western europe's largest mosque in london for £15m.

  (must have had god's blessing).

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  Well said Slimboyfat, and I totally agree with you.
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  are the witnesses now considered "clergy " ?

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  years ago when i was a jw, one of their cornerstone teachings was that they were nothing like babylon the great.

  i remember being taught that the witnesses not using any type of clergy class distinction was proof that they had the right religion.. well, recently we had this article in the local paper, and an elder who was no doubt the presiding overseer tried to use the clergy class excuse to get out of answering questions regarding a child abuse case.

  here is the statement that really got to me.

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  They are not only considered clergy, but they argued in the Menlo Park KH legal case that they were just like the Catholic Church. Lol. Google it to find out more. It’s absolutely astounding
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  5 kingdom halls in New Addington for sale

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had it confirmed today that 5 kingdom halls on one site in new addington are for sale.

  price being asked £3.5 million.. every witness in london worked on that site.

  am in shock.

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  At George of England - That is exactly what happened with the Menlo Park KH in California. Google it to find out more.
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  5 kingdom halls in New Addington for sale

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had it confirmed today that 5 kingdom halls on one site in new addington are for sale.

  price being asked £3.5 million.. every witness in london worked on that site.

  am in shock.

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  Where is this mike and Kim video
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  I attended my JWs Grandfathers funeral

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i attended my grandfathers jw funeral the other day.

  firstly i am a rabid apostate, and certainly not wt greatest fan.

  that been said however, i will certainly stick up for them when they do the right thing.

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  I attended my Grandfathers JW funeral the other day. Firstly I am a rabid apostate, and certainly not wt greatest fan. That been said however, I will certainly stick up for them when they do the right thing. I have to say that I was deeply impressed with the funeral service. They had photographs of him playing on the TV monitors. I would say 60% of the service would of been about him as an individual, and 40% sermon. To be fair I thought this was the right mix as after all he was a life time JW and a deeply religious person. Ok fair enough. The shocker came, and I was stunned, when after the service the played A secular singer over the sound system in the KH. A singer my grandfather was particularly fond of, and something in my life time as a JW I had never witnessed before.

  The friends ( all be it conditional ones ) put on a lovely reception for which there was more than enough food, and afterward cleaned the venue ,for which we were most great-full for. Not been DFed of course I was able to see friends of my grandfathers who I hadn’t seen in years.

  Is this change going on world wide or was this just a one off example. I would like to say good for you WT in what was a very sad moment in my life.