Posts by SheilaM

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Bill Bowen...Rev MaLk

by Brummie in

i find it incredibly difficult to read between the lines in current threads on bb closing the sl forums and deleting posts etc, it would be helpful to know what is really going on?

its important.

i havent been keeping up with the sl forum.

I think it's crap that Bill decided to end the board. Yes, he has alot of irons in the fire but to discontinue it was really a kick in the teeth. It was one place I could go and feel comfortable, I mean this board is nice but a little extreme at times. (I don't mean to offend anyone) If I wanted to talk about alot of the issues that are brought up here I could go chat elsewhere. No, I wasn't sexually abused but I was emotionally abused and I can't seem to get over it. Having a safe haven and then having it yanked out from under you is not especially comforting. I haven't posted there since, I'm trying this one out to see how it goes, so far so good.

I do want to thank you for taking the board over and I do like the lambs roar idea, I am an artist and am working on a graphic for you to look at.

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What to do with those who abuse kids??

by JT in

i'm sitting here in the serverroom freezing my buns off and the issue of the child abuser and what to do with him or her was being kicked around.

we got the standard shot the bastards in the head etc,.

should they get any treatment at all or should they just be shot?.

SheilaM

I am a peacenick always have been but my children have always known that if someone molested them I would kill the abuser, no if ands or but's. I always talked to my children about molesters and they always were good about people that made them feel creepy. But when my hubby and I found out about the issue of the JW's hiding the incidents of molestation we freaked. On Silent Lambs someone once said that their was a molester roaming free in the Cabool, Missouri congregation we lived there when my kids were little, I sat down with them again and made sure that nothing happened but I feel so violated I TRUSTED them so much I LET PEOPLE HOLD MY CHILDREN I let my children run around the assembly hall on breaks OHMYFREAKINGOD I knew that there were many faults with them but I was lulled into a false sense of security and I feel like I was in the lion's pit all the time with two little lamb chops ya know. I have a friend that is a Psychiatrist that works with offenders she was molested by a close relative, she does it to seek out why it happend. I believe this kind of peversion can not be rehabilitated. The only way a child is 100% safe is if they are dead, 70% is #%$#$#^#%^ that far to many children being abused, it's not worth it.

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The Brits do IT more!

by BadJerry in

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ran across this tidbit of info...that's like three times a week...oh my!.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=10&u=/nm/20021125/od_nm/life_britain_sex_dc

SheilaM

Out:

My quote is symbolic of my friggin life LOLAlso it's a quote from my favorite book written in the '50's by Marjorie McIntyre called "The River Witch".Thanks for askin'

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JWS NOT FREE TO FALL IN LOVE

by heyfea in

you know how the society pushes every one to do more, and more, and more....and those who don't do more without a super valid reason (like you're in a coma), are considered not "spiritual", right?

ok, they also tell single brothers and sisters who are pioneers or bethelites that they should only consider marrying those with the same spiritual goals....in other words....choose some one who "loves" jehovah just as much, meaning one who preaches 120 hours a month or works in bethel,etc.....right?

....well i think it is so unfair.. it's already bad enough that we cannot look at another human being from the opposite sex because they are not witnesses (never mind that they are excellent human beings, ones that would ashame many jws)....we also have to keep from falling in love with a pioneer or bethelite (if you are not one, because he or she will not give you the time of day) or from falling in love with a mere publisher ( if you are a pioneer , because the elders will suggest to let it go, and they will try and try until you give it up)( i've witnessed a huge case...that ended in a bethelite and a pioneer dying, litterally) isn't that appaling?

SheilaM

Cruz:

How true my hubby was "picked out" for a girl in his congregation when I started my study and fell in love with him the rumours flew. I had a daughter from a previous relationship so I was a slut to them, they never asked what happened. But you know of all the kids that married that we knew in the "truth" in more than 3 congregations, WE NEVER had sex or anything (just kissed and I mean not even french) but they continued to spread rumours when my son was born in February 1985 and we had married in April 1984 they had evidence of our pre marital sex you know babies are always born at 11 months LOL

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The Brits do IT more!

by BadJerry in

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ran across this tidbit of info...that's like three times a week...oh my!.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=10&u=/nm/20021125/od_nm/life_britain_sex_dc

SheilaM

Out:

How friggin ridiculous my hubby is great in bed that is why we have sex that often how can you have a healthy loving relationship showing your love for each other a few times a month. I have raised two children worked had hobbies and now I'm in college but you know each night I make love to my husband. Of course, my husband is multiorgasmic and so am I you know why we practice alot LOL Also we don't stick to the missionary position

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The Brits do IT more!

by BadJerry in

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ran across this tidbit of info...that's like three times a week...oh my!.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=573&e=10&u=/nm/20021125/od_nm/life_britain_sex_dc

SheilaM

Geesh Only three times a week no wonder we fought for our freedom LOL

So in retrospect the British really aren't coming...at least as often.

Hmm Married 19 years I don't think we have ever done it LESS than 5 times a week (not counting if we do it more in one day)

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Reflections (I must be tired or shumpthink)

by Brummie in

last week i visited brummie land and it gave me a lot to think about, in particular my jw grandmother and here is why.

she was born in 1914 and was of the generation that was waiting for the new system to usher in paradise....she waited and waited .

she would have been around when all the bible students were waiting for 1925 to usher in the new system.

SheilaM

Brummie:

We have played the waiting game also we were told not to have children well we married in 1984 and now our children are grown and we have a granddaughter. We were shunned because we had the audacity to want to support our children honestly so we both worked (gasp) They really hated that in all three halls we attended. We have seen so many that were told not to have children in this system look around and find they are now getting to old to think about it. Well were only 38 and thinking about having another one LOL The Witnesses want you when your studying but once your involved in less your are connected there is no association at all. My kids were treated like dirt why because they were respectful GOOD kids and didn't run all over the hall knocking people over and GASP I let them play with WORDLY children that live on our street, who the hell else were they going to play with the zombies from the hall? Well, one of those horrible wordly kids was so upset that my son had lost his faith after the witnesses horrible treatment of my husband after a car wreck, this worldly kids got the bible out and talked to my son about GOD and my son has been a happy presbrytiarian (how ever you spell it) ever since as for me I choose to run like hell from anything close to organized religion YUCKY YUCKY PHEW My hubby being raised in the "truth" has seen so many waiting...endlessly

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I was once an angel on a tree.......please read...

by Jesika in

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friends

this was inspired by the story freedom96 posted earlier.

i was in foster care and was placed there right before halloween.

i celebrated my first halloween, and thanksgiving.

SheilaM

Jesika:

That was beautiful!!!!

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XMas illuminations on your house

by Simon in

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i guess this is more of a usa thing, but in the spirit of international friendship we have decided to put some effort into things this year.

he he ... this house is round the corner from angharad's parents and he raises money for charity.

the picture doesn't really do justice to just how bright it is (you can see the glow before you get there).

SheilaM

You should love this story!

First I decorate each year ( for the past 7) in icicle lights but the first year I was just putting icicle lights on because we have a koi pond in front and I didn't want someone wandering onto the ice and falling in. We were not celebrating Christmas, I had them up from October until Spring. You know kinda of a winter theme. Well we hadn't seen the elders since they threatened to disfellowship my husband for having questions about the "TRUTH" LOL Then lo and behold we get a knock on the door midwinter, YES it was the elders now they hadn't been concerend when we were almost bankrupt after my husbands wreck (recovered thank whoever) they hadn't been concerend when we needed some kind of spiritual support and they hadn't cared when they hadn't been seen for over two years but HEY! they were concerend about those damn icicle lights. They were talking to my husband real quite like on the front porch, I asked him what the hell they wanted after they were driving off. They had again threatened him with disfellowshipping over the lights!!! I grabbed my robe and opened the door, glaring at the van they were in they BACKED up and the elder ran to the step I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing. He said that we were celebrating Christmas I called him a fanatical LIAR and told him that if he DARED to threaten us I would take this little story of fellowship alot further than the witnesses. I asked him how they could never do one friggin thing to help and he had the audacity TO SAY: We arent responsible for helping you monetarily. MY JAW dropped I said you friggin ass I was Taking about SPIRITUAL SUPPORT Sheparding call you know. He kept acting like we wanted MONEY OH MY GOD!!!!! We had never taken anything from them NEVER. Now they had used my husband every time any little thing needed fixing but we NEVER. I explained with my teeth gritted that they needed to pretend we were on a desert island they couldn't get to, they were NEVER to come to my home again, I told them we were more morally clean than any of them and how dare they threaten us, I indicated I would spill some very dirty laundry about some elders if they dared mention us in the hall again. Well, six years later we have seen hide nor hair of them, we have not been disfellowshipped (darn it) and I have a Christmas tree in the window and my house decorated with icicle lights everywhere. They made me realize just how stupid I was to fall for there bull*** for that I thank them.

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Why do Some Ex-JWs go Wacko?

by rebel in

i don't intend to offend anybody with this post, so please excuse me if i do.

i have often wondered why some people that leave the wt organisation go really weird.

there is a couple near me who left a couple of years ago.

SheilaM

Why You ask?

It took me almost 19 years for my husband to see the lies we were force fed. We were basically dumped by the witness when my husband was in a horrible wreck, he had three ruptured disks and two herniated we asked for nothing but some spiritual support. I left him in a hopital after a bad bought of depression (read suicide atempt) called an elder and was lectured that our service time wasn't good enough, our meeting attendance (read HOW DARE YOU TRY To WORK AND SUPPORT YOUR KIDS). I was never good enough in any congregation, nor my family, unless they needed their cars worked on or their houses.

Why do we now celebrae Christmas...because we CAN. Why should I believe ANYTHING thye say, do I feel God will judge me for a freakin tree..NAH if he does I should be waiting in line behind the elders that told my husband he HAD to attend meeting despite his injury, then we he did bitched at him that his getting up to stand to releave the back pain was a distraction. So if they are right and I am wrong so let it be. Do I care that a God that f******UP would judge me NO. But you know I know he isn't I'm including a poem I finally got my husband to let me post on silent lambs. I went there first to vent after learning of the abuse that has happened. We only received the spiritual, mental and physical( the later from his parents). This poem should more than answer your question.

Servitude

Enjoy youthful soul with eyes trained forward to a false promise. Biblical blinders.
For one with such a promising and bright future, good times were few. Holy halter.
Innocent flesh covered with the scars of self inflicted sin. Witnesses whip.
A back bent under the burden of bearing witness to lies. Evangelical arthritis.
Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday, five meetings a week. Approved association.
Circuit and district conventions. Myriad on myriad of brothers. So alone in the crowd.
Our years are only 70 or 80 if we have special mightiness. I wasted 20.
I remained apart from the world while. No longer. The dog to its vomit?
I delved into the word and found discrepancies. I wanted to make the Truth my own.
I asked questions. They went unanswered. Accept on faith = comply or else.
From delivering talks from the platform and working the literature counter. Servant.
To bad association publicly reproved. All because I wanted to hear the Truth.
Cast aside, no longer wanted by those representing a loving God. Marked.
God hates a liar, I was that. Millions now living will never die. Bullshit.
I was a liar because I believed and witnessed to the lie. Field service fallacies.
I dont blame God for hating me. I hate myself for my part in the lie. Door to door dupe.
I wonder how many lives my preaching ruined. My wifes.
I will live the rest of my years on this world doubting everything. Color me Thomas.
I will never be taken again. Once bitten twice shy.
I traded Truth for light. Faith for fact. Living for hope is now hoping to live.
70 or 80? Maybe, but not if I have anything to say about it.. I want my 20 back.
I will however shine a light on the darkness that is the organization. Fact, not truth.
Fact doesnt need faith, it stands alone. Right is right.
My flesh is healed, my eyes wander the wonders of life, I stand tall not stooped.

Author: Christopher Madonia