I will say that Tec is a pretty good sport - she always attempts to answer questions, even though some of the answers are a bit vague.
Posts by zound
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Epistemology. I Wonder 2...
by braincleaned inwhat is the value of our knowledge?.
i respect all beliefs for what they are.
but many of us are being treated condescendingly by those who have more certainty than we atheists do.
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Epistemology. I Wonder 2...
by braincleaned inwhat is the value of our knowledge?.
i respect all beliefs for what they are.
but many of us are being treated condescendingly by those who have more certainty than we atheists do.
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zound
Not to interupt the discussion - but just wanted to interject one thing:
I too do not understand JW's who latch onto other beliefs after discovering the truth about mind control etc. I had a faith of sort at one point as a JW - but my time as a believer whilst a JW and briefly afterwards was never without cognitive dissonence.
My question to Tec - do you experience cognitive dissonence in your current beliefs?
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"They listened and obeyed"
by zound innew childrens activity on jw.org - "they listened and obeyed".
am i too skeptical or is there an implication that those who are disobedient are likened to lepers?.
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/family-worship-projects/they-listened-obeyed/.
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zound
New childrens activity on jw.org - "They Listened and Obeyed"
Am I too skeptical or is there an implication that those who are disobedient are likened to lepers?
http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/family-worship-projects/they-listened-obeyed/
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So you want to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxo8nj-jpo.
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from roguepixel100 on youtube.
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zound
That's Danmera's voice for the voiceover isn't it?
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monthly report
by search4truth inhas anyone refused hand in monthly report with explanation that this practice is not biblical and what were the consequences of that ?
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zound
That's pretty funny in searchoftruth. Put down a huge amount of hours, bible studies, RVs.
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4 Letters from the Branch read tonight, no warning from this site
by James Jackson intonight at our meeting we had 4 letters from "the branch" read at our meeting.
i was caught off guard since we usually have an advance warning when these letters are going to be read.
is the watchtower getting better at hiding these letters?.
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zound
Can you elaborate on the use of smart phones etc. Are they saying don't use them? Do use them? How to use them?
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135th Gilead Class video
by zound inwhoah this video is so sad and cultlike - the most uncomfortable 6 minutes i've sat through for awhile.
the gb have seemingly pulled the rug from beneath the gillead missionaries and assigned them internally to bolster the organisation.
closing the ranks.. .
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zound
So much sadness and depression in their faces - check out the black brother at around 1.30 mark, he looks so miserable.
Anthony Morris slurring as usual - sounds like he's drunk.
I really feel like helping all these poor people who are throwing their lives away for these fat pompous old men.
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135th Gilead Class video
by zound inwhoah this video is so sad and cultlike - the most uncomfortable 6 minutes i've sat through for awhile.
the gb have seemingly pulled the rug from beneath the gillead missionaries and assigned them internally to bolster the organisation.
closing the ranks.. .
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zound
Some quotes from the confused and tired looking graduates...
"I was really struggling, in my mind, with that idea that we are now invited to Gilead." - (The woman saying this looked really concerned and was waving her hands to her head strangely - that's called cognitive disonence.)
"I just love to be surprised by Jehovah" (you are being surprised by the Governing Body - not Jehovah)
"So again it's just a case of trusting, that Jehovah knows best for you, and following it, and then you'll never be dissapointed." (You mean trusting the GB, andyou will be dissapointed)
"So for me, I realise that to be useful to Jehovah, and the organisation, I have to be a lesser one" (from a depressed looking sister)
And from the leadership...
"Show respect, for the dignity of others. You add to your dignity when you glorify your ministery - not looking for self glorification."
"Jesus said, those two coins that were placed there, that really was her whole living - it really didn't matter, how the money was going to be used - that was her gift to Jehovah, and she was going to be blessed because she gave it." (Geffory Jackson)
"Their giving had consequences, but they calculated the consequences and gave wholeheartedly to grand theocratic activity"
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135th Gilead Class video
by zound inwhoah this video is so sad and cultlike - the most uncomfortable 6 minutes i've sat through for awhile.
the gb have seemingly pulled the rug from beneath the gillead missionaries and assigned them internally to bolster the organisation.
closing the ranks.. .
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zound
Whoah this video is so sad and cultlike - the most uncomfortable 6 minutes I've sat through for awhile.
The GB have seemingly pulled the rug from beneath the Gillead missionaries and assigned them internally to bolster the organisation. Closing the ranks.
The interviews show sadness, surprise, confusion among the missionaries - so many offputting quotes in this video. They're like zombies.
The intermiddent clips of the GB cracking the whip are sickening - and to think, these are the 'highlight' clips the GB approved, I can only imagine what the rest of it was like.
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/events/video-graduation-gilead-class-135/
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Comprehensive NWT Comparison Project (calling all technically skilled members)
by Apognophos inis anyone aware if this project is already being done by someone?
if not, perhaps we can brainstorm how to go about this, now that the pdf for the revised nwt is out.
a couple initial impressions:.
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zound
This thread is fascinating. You may need to extract hyphenation also - that should be easy enough to do.