matthew 18:19-21 (king james version)
19again i say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my father which is in heaven.
20for where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am i in the midst of them.. .
" Whoever acknowledges Me before men, I will acknowledge him before My Father in heaven. But whoever disowns Me before men, I will disown him before My Father in heaven "
BlessedStar, what does it really mean to be "disowned" by your deity? What punishment or price will I pay who do not accept your god?
j
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/114818/thank_god_for_september_11/ .
hopefully the link works
Compared to the deceitful nature of main stream Christianity that hides the murderous wrath of their deity under a thick sugary coating of love, I found Shirley's honesty somewhat refreshing.
j
If Jesus' love is truly unconditional, what need is there to be a Christian? as unconditional love would benefit all...unconditionally.
Personally, I don't think Christianity has a clue what unconditional love means; and for them to judge the Witnesses is hypocritical.
j
even if all else looks bad, due to the fact that jw's preach the goodnews of the kingdom in harmony with matt 28, doesn't this make them the true religion since technically no other religion can make this claim?
Reality is not a concept.
Amen.
j
i've been disfellowshipped for 4 years now (for loose conduct - lol) .
what i want to know is, what am i supposed to believe now?
i was brought up a jw but i know that so many of their teachings and doctrines are completely false.
Dear Bubble,
Ponder on Terry's post as it gets to the root of it, and may help you see that the frame of mind that is asking your lead question will only take you deeper into illusion and discontent.
The reason you're in a quandary is you are missing the actual reality of life; which propagates a sense of brokenness and incompleteness. Perhaps it's time to figure out that the significant reality you seek, is not found in mental concepts and beliefs; but is infinitely more present and alive than that.
j
even if all else looks bad, due to the fact that jw's preach the goodnews of the kingdom in harmony with matt 28, doesn't this make them the true religion since technically no other religion can make this claim?
If everything known about a tree is written in a book, and you place that book next to a tree, where is the truth?
The Bible doesnt contain any TRUTH, if anything it distracts consciousness from what is actual, real and true!
J
i have not been on this board in a while for various reasons.
the main reason being that my best friend died on march 11th, and things have been different since that day.
i don't have words to describe how the void feels, so i won't even attempt.
Dear Fairchild,
Your dilemma is actually a simple one. You are lost in your mind; and using only your mind will lead you into endless unanswerable questions. Silently and patiently observe how thoughts, concepts and beliefs only weave a tighter web of confusion cutoff from any sense of comforting reality.
What if awareness is taken off formulations and grand productions of the mind, what is here then? What is real?
Come back to the vibrant aliveness of this present moment. Silently and without mental abstraction and commentary look deeper into the actuality which is here, and see if there is a peace beyond understanding of the mind.
Be still, and know...
j
i have not been on this board in a while for various reasons.
the main reason being that my best friend died on march 11th, and things have been different since that day.
i don't have words to describe how the void feels, so i won't even attempt.
I need answers, I really do. All thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.
Dear Fairchild,
Actually, the passing of a loved one can shake us out of complacency and be an opportunity to look deeper into things.
Here is a resent thread which was similar in nature to yours.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/111476/1.ashx
j
hello from mavie.
currently happily married for a number of years to a great jw wife, i currently serve as an ms in our local kh.
my wife and i have been told we are pillars in the congregation.
Welcome, mavie.
As Jehovah's Witnesses, we are programmed to rejoice at the death of billions of men, woman and children so that we can covet the land. Is it really surprising that a kind and caring person fall into deep depression from such a vulgarity eating away at their heart and soul, year after year?
If you truly desire for the health and wellbeing of your family to return, it may be wise to do some major rethinking and soul-searching.
j
i hope i don't go too long with this.... last night my wife and i were talking about her day in service.
we talked about several things of little consequence and then i made mention of a point out of the reasoning book to underscore the importance of our need to be well versed in the facts that support our beliefs.
said point is on 416 of the rs book.
@Gumby
