I'm afraid of losing Jehovah, such as everyone on this board did. I love God. I want to please him.
Perhaps, If your god is so tiny that you can "lose" it, then it's not worth having.
j
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
I'm afraid of losing Jehovah, such as everyone on this board did. I love God. I want to please him.
Perhaps, If your god is so tiny that you can "lose" it, then it's not worth having.
j
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Welcome, Saki.
Who are you trying to sell the validity of the Witness Organization to? The people here, or yourself?
If you feel it is the right thing to worship an ancient tribal deity and those who profess to be his ambassador here on earth, go for it. Stop vacillating. Be the best Jehovah's Witness you can be. Certainly you must believe the end is near; and if you are found not honoring and serving your all-knowing deity, he will certainly without hesitation kill you and your children. This brings up an important question however.
Can you honestly, sincerely, and genuinely love and honor that which will kill you and your family if you do not? Dwell on that, until you are absolutely certain as to your hearts answer. Then follow your heart. Either be a Witness 100%, or let go completely of the insanity once and for all.
The silent wisdom exists within you which knows without doubt what to do.
j
blondie has repeatedly asked in her item on the wt study "where is jesus?".
since the wtbts claims to be christian, you could reasonably expect such an organization to talk about jesus could you not?.
for all jws, and others - start counting how often jesus is mentioned at the meetings.
What a divine little box.
j
blondie has repeatedly asked in her item on the wt study "where is jesus?".
since the wtbts claims to be christian, you could reasonably expect such an organization to talk about jesus could you not?.
for all jws, and others - start counting how often jesus is mentioned at the meetings.
Yes, where is Jesus?!
Other than Jesus-thoughts and beliefs running about in the mind, where is Jesus? Besides Krishna-thoughts running amuck in the mind, where is Krishna? Besides Buddha-thoughts running around in the mind, where is Buddha? Besides Allah beliefs flowing through the mind, where is Allah. Other than Jehovah-thoughts moving through the mind, where is Jah?
Besides me-thoughts running, running through the mind, where am I? Who, what am I, really?
Seriously.
j
i know this has probably been covered before, if so i apologize for dragging it up again.
1) is it acceptable just because its an accepted pronunciation to call god je-ho-vah
2) should the witnesses constantly be saying jehovah this and jehovah that, as it seems to me to be taking up gods name ( if it is correct ) in a worthless way.
Why is it important to pronounce an ancient tribal war gods name correctly? Superstition perhaps?
I understand the desire to truly honor the Source of all life and universes as it's often an innate and powerful aspiration (it has certainly been one of mine). However, in this special circumstance -- showing reverence to our Fount and Sustenance -- perhaps it would be advisable to not just blindly give our highest form of honor and attention to a primitive deity; no matter what the masses do. When it comes to the actuality of God, it may be wise to throw tradition and personal deities to the wind.
j
it seems that everyone i know who claims to be in the right religion, has the idea that their religion is some how more pure or perfect then all others.
whether is a christian faith as a whole, or an individual sect of christianity.
yet, no one seems to be willing to see that their religion, has, does and will do the same.
Pure religion clearly seen as an oxymoron, is a valuable observation, free2beme.
Religion is a product of the ever-changing mind; as is our personal god(s) of which religion is but a story in which they dwell; as is the "me" whose story it all is.
We have made an important discovery that the minds "spiritual" and "personal" fruits are unreliable. So, now what? Shall we pick more apples? Or find the true Source from which the orchard grows?
What actually sees the mind and all it's grand and cherished stories of gods, universe and self? Is IT, part of the drama? Does IT change or morph? Perhaps the purity and truth we seek is so close and intimate, it was missed.
What really looks out these eyes?
j
i read the "woman in doghouse" article on yahoo, and i suddenly remembered - hey, i used to be a part of that sorry cult.. .
i almost never remember my days as a depressed, abused jw anymore.
there is life after the wtbts.
Hello little dear! Always a joy to see you here. Please come buy more often.
j
thoughts, please indeed proofs of the true faith / church / religion .
backed up firmly by scripture .can indeed any religion be described as having no , idol worship , man made doctrine , conscience controlling of its members.
if not which is the correct way to worship god at this moment in time and that to come.
Ade, you can not know the "truth path" until you have a foundation in reality -- which poppers is eloquently pointing you to.
Asking questions about God, or life, or truth, is a fools errand if first there is no clear realization of who/what I am. For if our identity is false, so then is everything that persona believes to be. In other words: a lie, can not know truth. Does that make sense? If we view through a glass-darkly, everything perceived is dark.
When all beliefs regarding self and universe are absent, what remains? How deep does that go? Who/what, are you, really?
No matter what your precious Bible tells you, perhaps, just perhaps, the actual living truth of what the word G-O-D points to, is not so tiny and limited as to be absent or separate from what you truly are. I understand this can be offensive to Christians and other deity worshippers who embrace small definable concepts and beliefs of the divine....but you did ask.
If there truly is That which has no beginning and no end, what does that make you just beneath all the ego and beliefs of "self"? So, this is not an ego trip. Rather deep, honest and earnest investigation -- in a sense -- will be the end of "you" and an expansion of God. It's like a crucifiction.
j
hi.
one of the girls i work with, wenda, is studying with the dubs!
The idea of telescopes and nature and actually reading the Bible
One of these offers insight that is unrestricted, real, vast, and true. The other goes out of it's way to see how small, foolish and mythological it can make the divine.
An old American Indian was know to have said to a Christian (who was likely trying to give him a Bible): "Your God lives in words on paper which come to nothing in the wind and rain. Our God lives within the wind and rain."
To each his own.
j
hi.
one of the girls i work with, wenda, is studying with the dubs!
What book should I recommend?
I wouldn't recommend a book; rather suggest she spend more time seriously investigating nature by looking through telescopes and microscopes and hiking out into nature to get a damn good sense of the ungraspable infinite expanse of life and universe. Then she will likely be able to see the foolishness of attributing such unending wonder and beauty to some little tribal deity.
j