Congratulations!!! News prolly don't come much better than this.
j
i just got the confirmation she is getting out!!!.
she was in combat competition(won for her team) but she broke her wrist and thumb...and shattered her knuckle.. .
so they gave her a choice.........as they knew she wanted out.
Congratulations!!! News prolly don't come much better than this.
j
more and more i find myself coming to a materialist view of the world.
i don't believe in afterlife, ghosts, angels, auras, astrology, revelations and the like.
so what am i to make of people who claim to have spiritual experiences?
Narkissos:
Indeed, all imaginary representations, or theories, tend to be totalitarian and deny the others inasmuch as they are perceived as concurrent...This seems an unsuperable limit to me.
Insurmountable only as long as "all imaginary representations and theories" are believed to be reality. Once clearly seen for what they are, the barrier dissolves.
The door is always open.
j
going from one religion to another
as a former jehovah's witness have you been enticed to consider another religion perhaps, seeking to find "the truth" ?
this is a dilemma that certain individuals.
In answer to your question, once I knew Watchtower was full of lies I decided to research the BIble. I discovered the Bible is full of fables, that the gospels weren't written by those given credit for them, that nothing was written down about Jesus until around 40 years after his death (if he existed) and that there is no historical evidence for Jesus' existence
Exactly what I found. Hard to accept, (even still), but reality.
It takes great courage to see the truth that our gods are false; and that is just the beginning. What we seek is the purity of truth. Truth is the actuality of the present which remains when all that is false, all that can be removed, is removed.
Religion is simply thought. There is no reality to it outside the imaginations of the mind. Which does not mean that the mind can not present fantastic images that appear real to convince us. But visits by our favorite deity are only temporary phenomena. What is true always? What is present when all phenomenal experience is absent? What remains when the universe isn't? When all phenomenal beliefs of reality and "self" are quiescent, what are you, really? Resting just beneath all the story and drama, what is true, right here, right now?
j
"visitors from outer space reveal themselves, and make contact".
now, i realize this is something seen on those supermarket tabloids all the times.
what i am saying, is what if it was true and the networks had it on, cnn, foxnews, msnbc, etc.
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check out this george carlin video.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=935607276.
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
Scoob:
...Truth/Jehovah whatever you want to call it...I can and will not rubbish it
Scoob, it is simply your beliefs that are causing you problems. It seems you embrace so tightly the diminutive biblical concept of the divine, that you can not see what is infinitely greater than that. So, you fear that you will some how dishonor God by not being a member of it's favorite little group or belief system.
Certainly the true Source of an INFINITE universe, must be greater still. With this in mind, how is accrediting a limited tribal man-god for this endless expression of life and universe, not rubbishing it? How is belittling and shrinking the boundless and endless Source and Sustenance of all life and existence down to a desert war deity, not disparaging or dishonoring? Are you in fact doing what you said early you would not do? Little wonder you have a problem.
The only separation from the Divine that exists is an illusion within the tiny confines of your little doggy mind. Your true Source is not so small as to be absent, no matter what the tribal "holy" book you cherish says. If I were you I would bury the damn book with your next bone. I would make a decision right now to no longer accept anything which belittled or minimized the Divine. Then, you may start seeing in a different way.
j
this will probably apply to few here, but to me it'll always be that way.
it's the what if syndrome maybe, but it's always there.
i still think that as a core belief system the jw's have it right, even if their delivery isn't always right.
Any one who believes that the moronic and finite tribal-deity that is found within the pages of the Bible is the true Source of an INFINITE universe, sows his own seeds of fear and dread.
j
now that i feel free to think about whatever i want i have been questioning everything.
so here are my thoughts on whether or not god, at leasy the one described in the bible, is fit to command.
we don't have very many examples of him ruling over large groups, but here are the main three i can think of.
LTC, it's all fake. So, now what?
Monkey, thanks for the key to encryption.
j
more and more i find myself coming to a materialist view of the world.
i don't believe in afterlife, ghosts, angels, auras, astrology, revelations and the like.
so what am i to make of people who claim to have spiritual experiences?
Is there another possibility that allows for the integrity both of materialism and of persons claiming such experiences?
May I suggest that the actual difference between someone who believes that: "all that truly exists is the material world around us", and those who claim "spiritual experiences", is no difference at all. They are both instances of placing ultimate significance and reality on what is phenomenally experienced.
What comes before all experience, be it "material" or "spiritual"? What silently witnesses all thought and phenomenal display? What does all the drama happen within? What unites everyone and everything? Who/what are you -- truly and purely -- at the core?
j
let's say.......there is no god, the bible is not inspired by god........ but.
what is written is being played out.. is what is written being played out?.
why don't we change the future?.
You're saying we should write ourselves new self-fulfilling prophecy?
You go first.
j