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  Some odd developments

  by dissonance_resolved in

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  so things are not making sense at all here in my fade.

  as i had posted earlier, i had a long intense talk the other night with my husband where i thought it was crystal clear just where i'm at right now with the wtbts.

  then, the same week, he's not feeling well and asks me to take the kids to the mid-week meeting.

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  JamesThomas

  "I feel like I'm living in an alternative universe where my own actions and thoughts are meaningless."

  Read about Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

  It may help you understand the dynamics of what is going on.
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  Sense of reality

  by d in

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  since leaving the jw's in 2008 i still struggle with a crisis of meaning at times.

  i feel like at times life has no set purpose and we are just empty humans floating in space.i struggled a lot with this when i left in 2008 but so no much any more.. i feel like my set version of reality was falling apart and i felt at times i was falling into a deep abyss.. .

  did any of you feel like that when you left the jw's?.

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  “ Our ideas of reality are really data. What you do with data is the proof of the "reality" pudding.”

  So, that's it?

  This is as deep as it gets?

  We questioned everything before, but now we don't?

  Such a method of “proof of reality”, is understandably an easy conclusion in which to accommodate ourselves; because nothing has really been threatened or fundamentally changed. Our paradigm of 'reality” remains pretty much untouched and uninterrupted.

  We have rearranged our impression of “reality” and how to discern it with the same process of thought that created the past delusions.

  “ Our ideas of reality are really data. What you do with data is the proof of the "reality" pudding.”

  So who is it exactly that manipulates the data into a “reality” pudding? Who are we, really?

  Instead of comfortably resting in past mental constructions of reality, lets have some drastic fun and pull the rug completely out from under ourselves.

  Perhaps a new way of seeing will arise.

  What IS our “physical reality”? Who ARE we?

  The human body and brain, are constructed of atoms. The atom consists of a central nucleus which is surrounded by electrons. The nucleus and electrons are extremely small, and so most of the atom is simply empty space. How much is empty, and how much not?

  Lets put together all the atoms of all seven billion people on this planet together, and remove the space within those atoms.

  What does the remaining nuclei and electrons consist of?

  Approximately, one teaspoon of “matter”.

  Did you get that?

  The fact is, is that what we think of as “ourself” is 99,999....% nothing.

  Is what remains solid-concrete-matter?

  As far as we can tell it is fundamentally made up of non-material energy. Something, we don't yet understand and can only theorize and guess as being invisible vibrating multidimensional strings and shit. Nothing we can comprehend.

  There is no there.

  So what are we, really? Who is it that thinks it can deduce what “reality” is???

  Do we just continue the same old paradigm? and “think” our way through? Or do we go beyond everything we believe?

  The door is open.
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  The JWs slipped up again with the same Alpha and Omega error from 1978

  by booker-t in

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  the saying people will make the same mistake over and over again is so true.

  in the "revelation grand climax at hand" the revised one 2006 the wt again makes the same error and attributes the words at rev 22:12 to jehovah on pgs 306 and to jesus on the last page 319. you would think they would have learned their lesson from the 1978 wt blunder.

  they almost use the same wording discussing the suddeness of jesus coming and jesus encourages his followers of his sudden coming and they list 5 scriptures and say jesus spoke them and one of the verses is (rev 22:12).

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  That's what happens when you have a circumscribed deity or deities. They just never add up to what you want them to.
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  Sense of reality

  by d in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since leaving the jw's in 2008 i still struggle with a crisis of meaning at times.

  i feel like at times life has no set purpose and we are just empty humans floating in space.i struggled a lot with this when i left in 2008 but so no much any more.. i feel like my set version of reality was falling apart and i felt at times i was falling into a deep abyss.. .

  did any of you feel like that when you left the jw's?.

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  JamesThomas

  Reality?

  Everything the mind calls “reality” – isn't.

  It's just a concoction of drastically limited electrochemical impulses thrown against the wall of the mind to create an artificial picture. We think we are thinking when all we are doing is rearranging the bogus mess.

  We call a leaf “green”; when actually it's the part of the the spectrum that is rejected. What makes up the leaf is anything but – green.

  Everything else is just as fictitious; just crap on which is fabricated an illusion of self.
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  Is it WHAT you believe that is important...or...is it HOW?

  by Terry in

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  overheard:.

  "is your cup half full or half empty?".

  "well, depends on whether you just poured something out or poured something in.".

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  Dear Myelaine,

  Our mind's are capable of arguing against, or for, any point another may have, for ever. Because all reference that the mind relies on for its conclusions in nothing but symbols, which are many times removed from any reality. So, the mind can never know, nor relate to, nor give witness to what is fundamentally genuine and true, and so it just continues its illusionary ego-centric arguments and beliefs for ever. That's not bad, it's just the way it is.

  Let's take it a little further in a direction that may help us understand the mind/brain limitations:

  Our brain, and all matter, is made of atoms. An atom is mainly space; emptiness, nothingness. Which amounts to what?

  If we gathered together every one of the seven billion people on earth, and piled all their atoms together and sucked away all the space in those atoms so that only the nuclei and electrons remained, what would be left?

  An amount that would equal a sugar cube. How minuscule a fragment is "you" in that? One seven billionth of one teaspoon?

  Now as far as what makes up that sugar cube, the atomic “particles” can be reduced down to pure energy, that have no solid existence either.

  What I am getting to, is that all of our thoughts, ideas, and seeming “realities” are based on a mind/brain generated facade that has no real existence, because the mind/brain that created it, has little if any existence or connection to reality in itself.

  So, in an epiphany, knowing this, we ask: what is, within us, TRUE? What do we intrinsically possess that can relate to deeper truth? What avenue remains for us to genuinly discover further?

  We forgo all illusion: all thought, ideas, beliefs, dogma, memories, etc. So that out most intimate non-phenomenal sense of consciousness and existence may clearly see what IS.

  If this makes any sense, then look, see, experience.

  If not, then just see me a fool. No harm meant.
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  Leaving...

  by LouBelle in

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  i just broke down in such an ugly cry at work.

  walked outside and just sobbed my guts out.

  i am so very unhappy here.

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  Dear LouBelle,

  Please let me preface this by saying that I frequent this forum rarely now days, so am not up to pare on the family going-ons here.

  That said, from what has been gathered it appears as if you suffer from chronic depression. A multi-faceted electrochemical imbalance that can effect our lives drastically. I know, because I have it too.

  May I suggest you look into several things.

  First, of course is to visit with a good psychiatrist who listens and can prescribe antidepressants. Alone these lines look into MOAI's, as they are not often prescribed but can do wonders when others do not.

  Also look into magnesium and it's role in depression.

  Also check out Curcumin with Piperine.

  Also, please look into Cranial Electrotherapy Stimulation (CES). Investigate into the plethora of medical tests that have been done over the years, and become familiar with what it is, and what it does. Then go to the SOTA website for the very best deal on a unit that does not require a doctors prescription.

  There are certainly many other avenues to pursue. The important thing is, is do not surrender and succumb to the depression in such a way that it over-whelms you and leads to suicide. There ARE other ways that can benefit you and mankind. Yes, mankind, as you have much yet to contribute to us.

  Your pain, in many ways, makes you more aware of things, more sensitive and open to things most of us ignore. You have much to share.

  Take advantage of the Internet and seek out ways to change and improve. Just being active in this endeavorer helps a lot. It give you hope and power to move beyond.

  You are loved.

  Send me a personal message, if you like, and I will be happy to share my personal email address with you, so we can share further.
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  Good Info for people that might get cancer

  by Iamallcool in

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  http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/every-doctor-knows-chemotherapy-causes-cancer-says-surgeon/.

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  Dear Cofty, I'm sorry to hear of your situation. I desire the best for you, and hope nothing I have said was inappropriate.

  Perhaps it is wise to look at our bullshit detector. We all have one.

  What is a detector, but a stack of filters to subtract and limited what we see and experience.

  In everyday life, we have to keep our individual filter operative, or we would go insane from all the data.

  However, when it comes to what may amount to the last days of our phenomenal existence, it may be wise to openly investigate what before we have filter out.

  Every organization champions what brings them profit. Their existence depends on it. The American Medical Association (AMA), is no different. They will never steer us towards health remedies that do not strengthen and support them. That is the way of the beast.

  So, knowing this, it can make it important to look and investigate, where they say: don't look.

  Indeed there are a lot of scams and BS. But there is also good stuff, that can help us.

  Just for an example, one may want to investigate vitamin C and it's effects on cancer. You can find some real validation for it. You will also find a strong effort to steer you away from it.

  Thank Gawd for the Internet. We can do our own investigation into the information that is out there.

  That's all I'm saying.
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  Good Info for people that might get cancer

  by Iamallcool in

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  http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/every-doctor-knows-chemotherapy-causes-cancer-says-surgeon/.

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  Cofty: “How much research does it take to know that surgery is more effective than a raw vegan diet?”

  I don't know how much. But to KNOW, does take diligent resaerch.

  I'm not saying a vegan diet is the way. I'm just saying that when it comes to life, to everything, it may be beneficial to be open to investigating all horizons and not dumb-down to the most prevalent and popular regimen.

  We know so little about life; and especially at the end, what better a place to be open?

  I sat and slept next to my father as he died from colon cancer. I'm not a stranger to this subject.
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  Anyone can be saved

  by StopTheTears in

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  i prayed that 2 japanese men would come to church today, and thank god that 1 said yes so far.............so please pray he and his friend would come not only to church, but to jesus.

  and i meet another non christian friend on monday, please pray for her salvation.. .

  when asked which is the greatest commandment, jesus replied,.

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  If I do not come to Jesus, what will he do to me?
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  Good Info for people that might get cancer

  by Iamallcool in

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  http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/every-doctor-knows-chemotherapy-causes-cancer-says-surgeon/.

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  Cofty: “The best treatment is a very sharp knife and a very highly skilled surgeon.”

  Let me preface my comment by saying this is nothing against you Cofty. Nothing at all.

  It's just that I often find such black and white statements, interesting. There was a time I thoughtlessly spewed them out too.

  Certainly, to make such statements for all the world to see, we must have invested countless years and many thousands of hours of research and investigation to be able to make such a definitive statement. But, how often is this the case?

  The older I get, the more clear it becomes how stupid I am. I don't know shit. Knowing this, my mind seems to effortlessly open and expand. It allows things in to ponder, where before the entry-way – was tighter than a mouses ass sphincter.

  Just say'n.