I agree. The smaller our concept of god (the divine and sacred), the larger the sphere of evil. Having no god, there is no definable edge to what can be viewed as sacred and divine.
j
i've written on here several times about how the witnesses have a really shallow spirituality.
remember how there were spiritual activities, "sacred service" as it was often called - bible study, prayer, meetings and field service - and everything else was considered not a spiritual activity, not sacred service?
they toyed with expanding the 'sacred service' definition for a short time.
I agree. The smaller our concept of god (the divine and sacred), the larger the sphere of evil. Having no god, there is no definable edge to what can be viewed as sacred and divine.
j
i thank you for your support for my sadness over my divorce, and not taking in the faith of the witnesses no more.
i tried the search engine for some articles and it said it was being updated.. i am still believing in the word of god, i dont believe anymore in greedy people.
how many here believe that christ will still return?.
Dear Magdalenefan,
Sounds like you are going through some stressful times. It's understandable you would want to reach out to a deity for some hope of salvation. However, I suggest going to the root of the problem, and quietly sitting and watching the mind. See how the mind creates a confusing grand-drama out of patchwork remnants of past-down beliefs and current emotional pain.
When we uncover the dynamics of the mind and the agony that can result from blindly allowing the mind to dictate our "reality", we then have the freedom of choice to not go there. But we have to clearly see what's going on, first.
There is a very peaceful witness to the minds activity; and it can be recognized as our foundational reality and identity. Then, life seems to not be so harsh around the edges. We have found a divinity far more real than any deity we seek outside the reality of here and now.
Good luck.
j
almost every night, i would get a phone call from my book study overseer, asking how i was, where i was.
whereas witnesses, when they experience hard times, stop going to meetings?
of course, my wife and i want to leave the witnesses, and i don't want to offend anyone in the process.
My wife and I have decided that it would be best for us to just stop altogether. I think that, for us, it'll be much more painful if we dragged this out too much longer. Wish us luck!
You are both wise. Follow your innate wisdom, and never forget the blessing of having each-other.
Good luck!
j
there seem to be quite a number of atheists who comment here.
when they argue how bad religion has been for society they point to actions done in the name of religion that are indeed horrific, such as the inqusitions.
there are also examples of course of non believers who have done great damage to society.
There are those who out of respect for a wondrous universe have created a god and worship it.
There are those who out of respect for a wondrous universe can not accredit a measly god for it.
So what? We're all here together.
j
we are getting ready to host my mates extended family today.
hosting this particular extended .
family of jehovahs witnesses has become fairly predictable over the years.
Welcome, WAY.
j
almost every night, i would get a phone call from my book study overseer, asking how i was, where i was.
whereas witnesses, when they experience hard times, stop going to meetings?
of course, my wife and i want to leave the witnesses, and i don't want to offend anyone in the process.
I want to leave. I see myself leaving. Just how do I get there? It seems I don't have a problem leaving, it's just my unwillingness to hurt people. Either way, why is this so difficult?
So, leave.
Stop worrying about other peoples reactions. You are not hurting people. They are hurting themselves; they will hurt because you are not what they want you to be....and this IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
Get off the fence, leave, and let the chips fall where they may. Be true to yourself and your family.
Focus more on the present moment with your family, and give less attention to the mind's drama concerning what others are going to think about it.
j
two books that i just finished reading come to conflicting conclusions.
the first one is by john mcgraw, brain and belief.
the second one is by dr. don morse, searching for eternity.
Which is wishful thinking, which is actuality?
Two sides of the same spinning coin, they are both wishful thinking. Actuality is simply not found within the imitations of words and thoughts.
I strongly suggest we will never ever find the truth we seek in a book, belief, or in someone or something seen as separate. It will be discovered as the most real, intimate and immediate sense of self and being, or not at all.
j
im still a witness, but my mind is shunned, already.
im staying for fear, since i dont have anything outside the jw's.
im not a hardliner saying im sure jw's are wrong or god dont exists, but i confessed myself that i just dont know and i guess strongly that a menmade organization which behaves and acts like the wts cant be the right.
Welcome, Marcel.
I pray occasionally. Not to a tiny image engraved in my head as before, but rather to the beloved, mysterious and intimate vastness of presence and existence.
Having no God, Divinity has no definable boundary or edge.
j
Is there any way that I could get some advice?
As long as you embrace beliefs in a vengeful tribal deity as your master, then expect to be imprisoned. It's the nature of the morbid beast.
j