i just wanted to say that i thought the program was amazing.......the dub in the mini van trying to quickly put in gear and get the hell out of there after his lame ass no comment type of statement made me laugh......the rest of it was like getting my heart ripped out.......it was interesting to me that the wts did not want to comment on camera......you would think if they have nothing to hide they would gladly want to defend themselves.......makes me think guilty as charged
jesusstolemyhotrod
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The Fifth Estate: Post your comments HERE
by Scully infor everyone who's watched.... or is in the process of watching the show..... .
please feel free to post your comments.... reactions.... quotes that stood out in your mind here!.
love, scully
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There is a rat on this forum
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini think someone on this forum is a rat....or troll as i think they are called.. i am sitting at home last night watching fear factor, and there was a knock at the door.. i opened it to find two elders from my old hall.
they did not seem very sincere when they apologized for disturbing me without notice.. they said the purpose of there visit was to just to check up on me, find out if my circumstances or opinions had changed.
we ended up in a huge conversation about my "inactivity", they wanted to know if there was anything keeping or holding me back from the truth, and wanted to know if there was anything i needed to get of my chest, cause guilt has away of keeping people back.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
You are very wise Valis......Emperor Class says it all!!!! I should have been more careful with the tone of my original post on this subject.....i apologize, if i created a stir or offended the long time members here......that was not my intent and very foolish of me.....but you are right.....i was very mad when i first started banging away at my keyboard.....should I edit it.....and if so how do i do that.....remember i am a foolish newbie
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There is a rat on this forum
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini think someone on this forum is a rat....or troll as i think they are called.. i am sitting at home last night watching fear factor, and there was a knock at the door.. i opened it to find two elders from my old hall.
they did not seem very sincere when they apologized for disturbing me without notice.. they said the purpose of there visit was to just to check up on me, find out if my circumstances or opinions had changed.
we ended up in a huge conversation about my "inactivity", they wanted to know if there was anything keeping or holding me back from the truth, and wanted to know if there was anything i needed to get of my chest, cause guilt has away of keeping people back.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
I agree with you valis.....i have tried to be as vague as possible.....after they left i re read all my posts.....in one i did mention where i was from.....and truth be told my brothers suicide was big news here.....it was a shock and created quite a stir when the elders boycotted his funeral and told many people not to go.....he had been quite well known and popular......my guess is that someone i know or knows my family has been here and put two and two together.....i have told no one personally that i have been here......i have been racking my brain trying to figure it out.....the only thing i can come up with is that in the hall that i would be going to if active there is a former friend of mine......we had a falling out about two years back......i remember him telling me along time ago while he was df'd that he had been to sites like this and found alot of friends.....he was reinstated about a year ago.....he knows me quite well and is very familiar with my situation......his wife is still out......maybe she is on here and recognized me......that is the only situation i can come up with
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There is a rat on this forum
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini think someone on this forum is a rat....or troll as i think they are called.. i am sitting at home last night watching fear factor, and there was a knock at the door.. i opened it to find two elders from my old hall.
they did not seem very sincere when they apologized for disturbing me without notice.. they said the purpose of there visit was to just to check up on me, find out if my circumstances or opinions had changed.
we ended up in a huge conversation about my "inactivity", they wanted to know if there was anything keeping or holding me back from the truth, and wanted to know if there was anything i needed to get of my chest, cause guilt has away of keeping people back.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
Hello,
I think someone on this forum is a rat....or troll as I think they are called.
I am sitting at home last night watching Fear Factor, and there was a knock at the door.
I opened it to find two elders from my old hall. They did not seem very sincere when they apologized for disturbing me without notice.
They said the purpose of there visit was to just to check up on me, find out if my circumstances or opinions had changed.
We ended up in a huge conversation about my "inactivity", they wanted to know if there was anything keeping or holding me back from the truth, and wanted to know if there was anything i needed to get of my chest, cause guilt has away of keeping people back. I told them that this was well covered territory, that for the most part I was leading a more bible principled life then I ever had when I was active. I told them at this point I was happy, thanked them for taking the time to come and see me but much like they had left it with me the last time, I told them if I needed anything I would contact them.
Then they hit me with the old "by the way", it has come to our attention that you may be visiting and posting on apostate web sites. I nearly fell over. They even knew what nic name I used. They said that someone had been reading something on here, and read a posting from a guy whose brother killed himself whil df'd, and whose circumstances seemed to match mine.
They said to come clean, and that they would help me if I had fallen into Satans internet trap.
I was shocked.
I asked them, even if I had been, and even if it was so wrong for me to be on this type of site, what in god's name was this other person doing there and under whose permission was that person allowed to few these sites and i hoped that they had made the same offer of help to them. They told me that they were here to talk about me and the other circumstance was under control. I asked if under control meant sponsored by the elders. There only answer was that they simply wanted to know if the accusation was true.
I told them it was none of there business, and I asked them that if we were done, would they please leave.
They seemed to take offence to my "rudeness". Told me if I had nothing to hide, I should calm down. I told them that whenever they have come to see me over the last 10 years it is always about an accusation and that i was tired of it.
They left.
So.....
To them cause i am sure they will be checking I say hello ( friendly wave )
To the one who ratted me out I say hello ( waving a single finger, guess which one )
And since I am sure I can expect another visit shortly.....probably to take the steps to kick me out yet again for living my own life.....I say bring it on.....I am ready this time and i think it might be fun to dance yet again.
And a warning to you all......beware the internet.....not because it will corrupt your mind.....but because you never know who is invading your privacy, listening or reading in.
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humble thanks -vivamus, witchchild and truthseeker
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini wanted to thank you for your kind comments to my "crucifixion" thread.
that whole time of my life was a tremendous kick in the teeth from the elders and the wts.
i wanted thru words to mock and lambast the whole organization for there foul treatment of suicide, there heartless actions and there crucifixion of those just like the thousands that are members here.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
i wanted to thank you for your kind comments to my "crucifixion" thread. that whole time of my life was a tremendous kick in the teeth from the elders and the wts. i wanted thru words to mock and lambast the whole organization for there foul treatment of suicide, there heartless actions and there crucifixion of those just like the thousands that are members here. i used the parable of the crucifixion, to slight them for what they preach and how there actions fail so many.
one day i hope to have that and many others i have written published, and dedicated to all those scorned by the WTS
again, thank you for your kind words
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Brothers Needed
by JH in.
when going door to door, does the organization rather recruit males than females?edited by - jh on 29 january 2003 6:41:29.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
i don't think they care either way......male or female......sex is not the issue to them as long as they "pump up the volume"
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Reaalllyyyyy????????
by meadow77 incan you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:.
29 have been accused of spousal abuse.
7 have been arrested for fraud.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
damn......it turned out to be congress......i was hoping you were going to say members of the new york bethel
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Assembly memories
by freedom96 ini remember baking in the hot sun, with the outdoor district conventions.
the only thing i liked about them was lunch time.
back in the day, then i could grab the little coupons, ten to a page, each worth 10 cents.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
as a teenager i remember most that the best thing about the assemblies was walking around after and during the sessions, checking out all the girls.....i think they called them coridor cuties for awhile......for me it was always about the babes
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crucifixion
by jesusstolemyhotrod inmorning all,.
i have not been here very long, but i wanted to share a bit of myself with all of you.
i have been writing stories and poetry since i was about 11 years old.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
morning all,
i have not been here very long, but i wanted to share a bit of myself with all of you. i have been writing stories and poetry since i was about 11 years old. i wrote this one after my df'd brothers suicide, it sort of summed up my feelings on the wts, the calous elders and there treatment of suicide, all the bull shit, and how i felt about the way my family was treated. i wanted to share it with all of you, i hope you enjoy and please let me know what you think.
Crucifixion
silence is a deafening whisper
pain the moment before i bleed
the rape of virtue not forgotten
crippling my sense of need
shadows cast illumination
forgiveness is a fallacy
forcing me to bear their weakness
nailing my hands to the tree
your sins are deep within you
i will tear them out and leave
children hung by their repentance
the wicked are the ones that grieve
saviors standing standing all around me
passing judgement on many lives
smashing stones against the worthy
who crumble as the promise dies
the curtains torn the tombs are empty
as the shepards cause the weak ones pain
the iron heats with your defiance
and brands me with the mark of cain
hand me your cup of poison mercy
hoist me up for all to see
slap me with your fists of cruelty
as your judas counts his fee
mothers cradling their own sorrow
screaming for their child's demise
i wear this thorny crown of hatred
and pity drips into my eyes
i have done what is known as the "poor mans copyright" on this. i would appreciate it if you did not use it for anything and just leave it as a post. but please let me know what you think.
thanks
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The single question of simplicity
by Gig inhaving made the somewhat selfish decision to minimize my wts research, it has been necessary for me to attempt several generalizations and summaries for the sake of personal closure.
this investigative process consumed approximately two of my years and i'm approaching my oh-so-sought-after final statement, for my own finality and for anyone who may also have interest.
because i consider many of you my friends i felt it appropriate to ask your opinion and comment.
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jesusstolemyhotrod
there is only one word I can come up with:
Deprivation
my reasons:
members are more often then not, deprived of their spirit, their right to free speach and thought, their money, their families, their friends, their time, their freedom, their enjoyment of what life truly has to offer, and their individuality, and so many, many other aspects of their lives.