Posts by Joker10

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johnny!!! I told you they would be in territory today....

by sf in

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....and they already paid up in yahoo.

hahaaa.

i saw two spanish ladies w/ a young girl....pissed me off.

Joker10

The good thing here is that you didnt tell the child anything. That would have been so wrong of from your part.

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Jehovah & the Military

by MMTP in

i'm not quite sure how to start this one, i'm new here and feel a bit of an outsider.

my sisters and mother are jehovah's witnesses and have been as long as i can remember.

i however, chose to follow a different path.

One must be a follower of Christ, not just a believer. So, yes, joining the military is not correct. Also don't believe everything you see here. Know that many are Anti-JW's who post here and also a wise thing to do is ask a Jehovah's Witness to explain things the way they believe it. Good luck.

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Witness Numbers Going Down???

by shamus in

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are the witness numbers going down?

or, are they still increasing?

does anyone have any good data on this?

Joker10

Of 2 Kingdom Halls that I know of, seems that all report higher arrendance than publishers. One congragation with 95 piblihers report some 175 in attendance and 220 when CO visits. Another comgregation with 75 publishers report 130 people on Sundays.

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Do you think the Watchtower will ever fall ????????

by run dont walk in

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i know it sounds impossible and probaly is.. but with the constant scandals, and all the info available, do you see the watchtower collapsing in our lifetime (from now to 2053) ?????????.

i guess anything is possible.

Joker10

No. the JW's have survived every tupe of government inmaginable

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Jehovah's Witness Statistical Graph

by Joker10 in

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does the church of latter-day saints really have 11.7 million members?

keep in mind that the church practice 'quick-baptisms'.

the missionary's job is to baptize people in 2 weeks from the time of the first conversation.

Joker10

Does the Church of Latter-Day Saints really have 11.7 million members?

Keep in mind that the church practice 'quick-baptisms'. The missionary's job is to baptize people in 2 weeks from the time of the first conversation. To get baptize, all you need is to attend the first meetings, give your word that you accept the teachings, and if you smoke and drink, that you will stop. Some people get pressured to get baptize and/or to please the missionary. The missionary expects the interested person to get baptize in a specific date (in 2 weeks). If the person is not willing yet to take that step they move on. After baptism, its the congregation's job, not the missionary's, to keep 'encouraging' that person. It's no surprise that after baptism most become inactive and many don't return again. Of the 11.7 million baptized Mormons, only 1/3 are active! And in Southern American countries the percentage is smaller. All of these people are "on the rolls". But who else is part of that statistic?
Those who were baptized but who never turned in a resignation letter. Again all those people who never went back to church again. And also all those who they lost contact with, but who will forever be part of the membership statistic ("on the rolls") until the age of 110 or until proof of death. (It is estimated that in some countries, like Poland, these missing people is high as 10% of the membership figure).
The Jehovah's Witnesses easily outnumber the Mormons in active members. And if you were to compare the 6 million+ JW's with the 11 million+ M‘s, the Witnesses would still outnumber them in more 150 countries! That is because 85% of the Mormons live in the western hemisphere, and almost half in the United States. Now, if you were to count the 15.6 million people who attended the Memorial in 2002 with the 11.7 million Mormons, who by the way, a considerable percent, as we see, don't attend church, the Witnesses and it's 'adherents' outnumber the Mormons in well over 200 lands!
Jehovah's Witnesses, in 2002, were up 2.8% from the previous year.
Latter-Day Saints, in 2002, were up 2.9% from the previous year. Please take note that the percentage of increase of Mormon active members may differ. In 2001, a ward of branch was created every 2 days, average. By 2002 it fell even more; barely one congregation each week! Its rate of increase has drastically fallen since 1989.

I have created this chart for all to compare

	Jehovah's Witnesses		Mormons
Country	Active (Peak Publishers)	Attendance	Active Members (Approx.)	"On the Rolls"(Active and Inactive)
Albania	2,708	12,795	300	1,001
American Samoa	203	657	5,899	13,109
Andorra	138	244	21	70
Angola	48,333	186,799	191	548
Anguilla	34	130	0
Antigua and Barbuda	372	1,086	33	134
Argentina	126,709	277,307	77,091	308,365
Armenia	7,644	19,508	255	850
Aruba	685	2,223	57	230
Australia	60,902	111,184	41,109	102,773
Austria	20,380	33,687
Azerbaijan	346	878	0
Azores	543	1,220	0
Bahamas	1,462	3,565	148	595
Bangladesh	101	241	12	50
Barbados	2,390	5,592	145	583
Belarus	3,381	7,863	118	394
Belau (Palau)	98	408	0	388
Belgium	24,961	45,179	1,759	5,866
Belize	1,411	4,876	742	2,970
Benin	6,901	28,351	0
Bermuda	488	1,062	25	103
Bolivia	17,724	61,866	31,375	125,503
Bonaire	54	216	0	73
Bosnia & Herzegovina	1,080	2,137	0
Botswana	1,285	3,534	311	890
Brazil	591,154	1,467,844	202,235	808,940
Bulgaria	1,289	3,423	882	1,765
Burkina Faso	1,036	3,243	0
Burundi	4,542	14,619	14	26
Cambodia	125	598	872	3,491
Cameroon	28,747	86,002	85	155
Canada	110,814	183,676	64,297	160,743
Canary Islands			875	3,500
Cape Verde	1,551	6,411	1,737	4,964
Cayman islands	164	422	23	94
Central Africa Republic	2,392	13,743	69	126
Chad	646	4,659	0
Chile	67,909	156,704	104,040	520,202
China			125	500
Chuuk	66	748	0
Colombia	123,770	420,009	33,872	135,490
Comoros	12	46	0
Congo, Dem. Rep. of	121,188	644,674
Congo, Rep. of	4,372	20,930
Cook Islands (Rarotonga)	171	381	494	1,236
Costa Rica	20,028	49,578	8,003	32,013
Cote d'Ivoire	6,701	25,491	3,722	6,893
Croatia	5,499	9,903	103	345
Cuba	86,946	186,213	15	50
Curacao	1,364	3,547	0
Cyprus	1,847	3,420	32	128
Czech Republic	15,901	29,703	433	1,732
Denmark	14,721	22,613	1,339	4,465
Dominica	353	1,083	0
Dominican Republic.	24,688	83,201	15,699	78,498
East Timor	31	103	0
Ecuador	46,660	181,524	38,264	153,056
Egypt			30	100
El Salvador	29,269	78,696	22,345	89,383
Equatorial Guinea	871	4,114	0
Estonia	3,978	8,146	186	621
Ethiopia	6,685	18,595	147	421
Faeroe Islands	88	144
Falkland	5	13	0	11
Fiji	2,008	7,506	5,068	12,672
Finland Ialands	19,660	27,572	1,342	4,476
France	115,414	200,602	9,367	31,226
French Guiana	1,528	6,013	64	257
French Polynesia (Tahiti)	1,753	5,438	10,019	20,039
Gabon	2,278	8,549	54	100
Gambia	151	429	0
Georgia	15,137	31,986	15	50
Germany	164,806	273,692	10,890	36,303
Ghana	70,174	237,309	10,208	20,416
Gibraltar	110	143	0	24
Great Britain	125,398	213,558	51,888	172,961
Greece	28,115	46,211	143	479
Greenland	137	271	0
Grenada	625	1,468	34	136
Guadalupe	7,719	17,819	58	232
Guam	629	2,286	369	1,476
Guatemala	21,890	63,676	46,074	184,297
Guinea	839	2,852
Guinea-Bissau	90	1,187	0
Guyana	2,174	9,263	287	1,148
Haiti	12,270	53,257	2,031	10,157
Honduras	13,888	46,258	26,126	104,505
Hong Kong	4,698	8,421	5,271	21,084
Hungary	22,034	41,546	1,009	3,605
Iceland	302	536	86	289
India	24,160	54,630	857	3,428
Indonesia	16,937	38,060	1,377	5,510
Ireland	4,782	8,623	712	2,375
Israel	1,288	2,773	0	165
Italy	231,226	405,927	4,963	19,855
Jamaica	11,233	33,636	0	4,560
Japan	218,731	343,852	23,465	117,329
Jordan			30	100
Kazakhstan	13,428	30,740	18	30
Kenya	17,138	46,996	1,652	5,508
Korea, Rep.	89,006	135,970	18,407	73,629
Kiribati	84	253	3,783	9,459
Kosroe	23	106	0
Kyrgyzstan	3,596	8,913	0
Latvia	2,256	4,414	217	544
Lebanon	3,598	6,775	41	139
Lesotho	2,891	7,607	138	461
Liberia	3,565	24,468	1,697	3,394
Liechtenstein	53	90	0
Lithuania	2,697	5,875	256	640
Luxembourg	1,792	3,375	46	155
Macao	111	241	232	928
Macedonia	1,058	2,887	0
Madagascar	12,955	58,714	728	2,428
Madeira	1,119	1,922	0
Malawi	54,331	162,212	97	326
Malaysia	2,325	6,119	404	1,618
Mali	201	707	0
Malta	564	923	39	133
Marshall Islands	213	1,187	1,450	3,625
Martinique	4,023	8,957	39	131
Mauritius	1,436	3,290	99	333
Mayotte	60	122	0
Mexico	557,126	1,704,459	220,554	918,975
Micronesia			1,288	3,222
Moldova	18,425	42,653	41	137
Mongolia	62	346	1,408	3,521
Montserrat	9	45	0
Mozambique	37,563	158,895	254	848
Myanmar	3,039	7,251	0
Namibia	1,210	3,361	93	312
Nauru	8	81	46	116
Nepal	561	1,666	0
Netherlands	31,070	52,550	2,342	7,809
Netherlands Antilles			0	190
Nevis	56	152
New Caledonian	1,660	4,648	628	1,571
New Zealand	13,343	25,566	41,117	91,373
Nicaragua	16,676	66,751	7,496	37,483
Niger	224	1,260	0
Nigeria	255,835	592,039	30,359	55,199
Niue	27	38	92	230
Norfolk Island	16	20	0
Norway	9,965	16,607	1,212	4,041
Pakistan	663	3,027	60	200
Panama	10,501	35,601	9,589	38,359
Papua New Guinea	3,472	15,843	2,664	10,656
Paraguay	8,037	17,491	12,564	50,256
Peru	83,862	281,153	88,389	353,559
Philippines	142,124	430,010	124,015	496,062
Pohnpei	79	374	0
Poland	126,538	232,766	251	1,255
Portugal	48,401	94,479	7,139	35,695
Puerto Rico	25,522	61,199	5,851	23,404
Reunion	2,617	5,481	220	734
Rodrigues	33	68	0
Romania	39,122	85,695	595	1,985
Rota	9	36	0
Russia	131,130	275,259	4,538	15,128
Rwanda	10,679	42,520	0
Saba	3	19	0
Saint Eustaius	13	26	0
Saint Helena	126	272	0
Saint Kittis	168	510	0
Saint Lucia	696	1,676	0
Saint Maarten	273	295	0	159
Saint Pierre and Miquelon	18	25	0
Saint Vincent	298	877	0
Saipan	173	538	0
Samoa	357	1,210	27,030	60,068
San Marino	187	303
São Tomé and Príncipe	388	1,830	0
Senegal	979	2,420	0
Seychelles	224	598	0
Sierra Leone	1,072	4,375	2,345	4,265
Singapore			557	2,228
Slovakia	12,422	23,458	31	105
Slovenia	1,846	3,150	75	250
Salomon Islands	1,730	6,247	93	186
Somalia			0	100
South Africa	72,707	173,108	13,700	34,352
Spain	103,883	167,277	8,274	33,096
Sri Lanka	3,608	9,687	78	313
Suriname	2,037	6,627	123	495
Swaziland	2,211	6,306	252	841
Sweden	22,965	36,539	2,154	8,616
Switzerland	17,823	29,766	1,841	7,366
Taiwan	4,600	11,250	8,376	33,506
Tajikistan	332	1,169	0
Tanzania	11,338	41,230	154	514
Thailand	2,033	4,906	3,084	12,338
Tinian	14	43	0
Togo	12,249	47,545	64	117
Tonga	168	564	21,945	48,767
Trinidad and Tobago	8,151	21,590	433	1,733
Turkey	1,655	2,997	0
Turks and Caicos	141	415	0
Tuvalu	52	200	0	88
Uganda	3,080	10,875	892	2,975
Ukraine	125,030	272,621	2,397	7,990
United States	1,022,397	2,240,095	2,124,239	5,310,598
Uruguay	10,591	24,028	19,286	77,147
Vanuatu	317	1,650	652	1,631
Venezuela	92,568	302,314	26,451	105,804
Vietnam			25	100
British Virgin Islands	195	612	6	25
Virgin Islands (U.S.)	637	1,830
Willis and Futuna	68	253	0
Yap	30	151	0
Yugoslavia	4,014	8,611	60	203
Zambia	118,919	504,798	233	779
Zimbabwe	32,900	70,016	2,936	9,787

All Lands with no Data	10,672	26,415		19482


Grand Total	6304645	15597746	3731270	11394522

				in 2002, 11721548

Who do you all think?

11

SCANS OF KM FEB AND MARCH 2003

by quinah in

Joker10

Thank you Gadget! I would like the scans please. I have also wanted to post images here, but don't know how. LOL. thank you very much!

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Should Jehovahs Witnesses be banned by our Governments?

by Brummie in

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it worries me when i hear of governments discussing jws in their countries with the thoughts of banning them!

i disagree with banning them.

they are a determined people who will suffer greatly for their fanaticism, i think they should be closely monitored but not banned.

Joker10

A while backm I asked this same question and everybody said NO. It is religious freedom and human rights. If they ban the Witnesses, they ban everyone from expresseing their opinions and choosing their lifstyle. It is just not fair.

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New and confused

by afrothunder88 in

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hello peoples.

my mommy let me join this forum.

her name on this is bittersweet.

but it seems the borg is saying that something more than faith is required.

that seems to be the thinking in chapter 8 of the recently released book worship the only true god.

Joker10

faith must be accompanied by works