This eckankar stuff sounds like a mix of Eastern Religions and New Age....You want something REALLY weird..Try Scientology. Some one described it as being a mix of the Moonies and the Mafia.
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Speaking of Wacky Religions....
by Ghosthunter inhas anyone ever heard of a group called eckankar?
they're based out of minnesota.
there is a vice president of the company i work for that's really into it.
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Make room for it..................(NEW KINGDOM MINISTRY)
by integ inthere's an article in the new km called "make room for it".
the aricle espouses the benefits of remaining single in order to spend more time in the ministry, serve at bethel, etc.
the title though is more of a demand.
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There's an article in the new km called "make room for it". The aricle espouses the benefits of remaining single in order to spend more time in the ministry, serve at bethel, etc. The title though is more of a demand. It does'nt say... "if possible make room for it".I found this interesting. I don't know why they still give me the Km, I have'nt been out in service for months. I have a question....Why does the borg constantly push people to spend more time in service? What's the payoff for them? It has already been discussed and presented on this forum that there really is no one at Bethel getting rich. More powerfull? Yes, but not materially wealthy. They have done the "right thing" by telling us all to go out in service to save our hides...Now why don't they just lay off?...Why don't they just beg everyone to send money? That would make more sense.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-27-03 WT Study
by blondie in1 samuel 16:7.
man looks at the outward appearance, but the lord looks at the heart.
remember that, when the elders and others at the kh have given up on you, god has not.
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integ
Could this article be paving the way for the eventual "new light" on dis-fellowshipping?
That would be nice.
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New Light on the United Nations (U.N.) (Scarlet Beast)
by UnDisfellowshipped inthere appears to be "new light" in the latest watchtower magazine (june 1st 2003 issue).
several watchtower publications for the last 50+ years have said that the united nations (u.n.) organization ("the scarlet-colored wild beast" of revelation) would definitely be the organization that will carry out jehovah's judgment on "babylon the great" (false religion), and then, under satan's [gog of magog's] direction, the united nations organization would become "greedy", and try to attack the remaining remnant of the "anointed" jehovah's witnesses and their companions, the "great crowd" of "other sheep", and then jehovah and jesus would destroy the united nations organization, along with everyone else who was not a jehovah's witness.
here is a quote that shows this: .
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integ
As one elder pointed out to me once "The only thing I believe is what Jehovah tells me in the latest Watchtower". This is the mindset of 50 percent of the org. The other 50 percent are just waiting for chance to make a clean getaway.
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Back from the Memorial
by ScoobySnax inwell like i say, just got back from the memorial, have been going most years, but this year i went by chance (knew it was roughly at 7pm at the nearest kh) to my old congregation that i grew up in.
i didn't find the "evil" people spoke of here on this forum, or those too stupid to see.
all i did see was people i hadn't seen in years, and let me tell you, what lovely people they were.
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I went to the memorial as well last night, and I know what scooby snax is trying to relate. There REALLY ARE good and decent people in the org...Which is why I have developed such an abhorrence for the FDS et al. When I see some of these old timers who have been touting the end of the system for so many years, only to have these dashed with a single penstroke of an old man who has been granted divine favor of bringing us "new light" it makes me a little upset. There are some very nice folks at the hall. But you can only take this stuff in very small doses. (once a year for memorial). Scooby likes the "love". I understand that. But what about the doctrines, control, df'ing, etc.? Does that even matter to Scooby? A lie is a lie....No matter how many "nice" people believe it.
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Let's Infiltrate....
by integ inas i eagerly anticipate and pray for the demise of the org, i am thinking about different ways this could possibly be accomplished...one way would be from within.
i know this sounds crazy but what if some of the bethel "heavies" actually turned against the org, or are already subletly trying to bring it down from the inside.
i know this is but a dream, but it's not entirely impossible...it seems like that would be one of the only ways to expedite the process..you would start seeing veiled, insidious, anti-org "suggestions" in the mags, books, etc.
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As I eagerly anticipate and pray for the demise of the org, I am thinking about different ways this could possibly be accomplished...One way would be from WITHIN. I know this sounds crazy but what if some of the bethel "heavies" actually turned against the org, or are already subletly trying to bring it down from the inside. I know this is but a dream, but it's not entirely impossible...It seems like that would be one of the only ways to expedite the process..You would start seeing veiled, insidious, anti-org "suggestions" in the mags, books, etc. In my intense desire to one day see my family experience spiritual freedom I've mused about faking being super spiritual, claim to be "annointed", and try to rise through the ranks...I must be nuts.
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Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?
by minimus ini know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.
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integ
For lack of recalling what their first names are I will refer to these co's as 'brother(s)".........
Brother Chin: Would stop in the middle of a talk to tell a crying babies mother to take her kid to the back and show some respect.
Brother Scheel: Very condemning....He ended up getting df'd for running off with his assistants wife.
Brother Prifty: A very sincere, smart, man. You can't help but like the guy.
Brother Janus: Over enunciates every word he says. Sounds like John Facenda of NFL films (arcane reference I know).
I guess I don't really have anything too bad to say about these guys...Just thought I would contribute to the post.
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New mindset of JW's.......?
by integ ini feel that the "true" feelings of a great percentage of jw's today is more along the lines of hoping that the society will somehow self destruct and they can be free, and that they feel trapped in this religion.
many jw's have confided with me...albeit in guarded terms, that they want out...but they can't do anything because of family and peer pressure.
it is a very guarded society, under a collective dictatorship regime.
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integ
Blondie,
I am in no way trying to make light of the pedophile issue...It is very serious to say the least, I am just relating what I feel to be the dubs mindset on the issue...If the" dubs" actually conceived of the seriousness of this, then I think maybe a lot would leave...I would settle for one "congregation" at a time leaving myself.
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New mindset of JW's.......?
by integ ini feel that the "true" feelings of a great percentage of jw's today is more along the lines of hoping that the society will somehow self destruct and they can be free, and that they feel trapped in this religion.
many jw's have confided with me...albeit in guarded terms, that they want out...but they can't do anything because of family and peer pressure.
it is a very guarded society, under a collective dictatorship regime.
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integ
I have to reply to my own post.....I think the UN issue is pretty big....The info just needs to be disseminated somehow. When a lot of people start to leave. it will be like a snowball effect. At least that is my fervent prayer. If there is a God, please stop this insanity, Thank You....AMEN.
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New mindset of JW's.......?
by integ ini feel that the "true" feelings of a great percentage of jw's today is more along the lines of hoping that the society will somehow self destruct and they can be free, and that they feel trapped in this religion.
many jw's have confided with me...albeit in guarded terms, that they want out...but they can't do anything because of family and peer pressure.
it is a very guarded society, under a collective dictatorship regime.
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integ
I feel that the "true" feelings of a great percentage of jw's today is more along the lines of hoping that the society will somehow self destruct and they can be free, and that they feel trapped in this religion. Many jw's have confided with me...albeit in guarded terms, that they want out...But they can't do anything because of family and peer pressure. It is a very guarded society, under a collective dictatorship regime. You are literally "scared" to say anything. The fear of a judicial committe hearing is very real to these people. When this "regime" of terror finally falls, I think there will be rejoicing, much like in Baghdad, with people literally "dancing" on the literature. We need a major scandal, the pedophile issue is'nt enough. I say this because it is not something the rank and file in most cases can "see" for themselves. Let's be honest. This pedophile issue is not going on in a great majority of the congregations, so to the dub layman, they are isolated incidents that can easily be attributed to human imperfection. No, we need something BIG to happen. I don't know what, but I am certainly open to suggestions.