For what it's worth, Trump says he is pissed and said 3M will pay the price. He signed some war powers act or something and said he can force them to manufacture the masks.
I guess we will see.
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
For what it's worth, Trump says he is pissed and said 3M will pay the price. He signed some war powers act or something and said he can force them to manufacture the masks.
I guess we will see.
Rub a Dub
this period of crisis seems endless and absolutely weird but end it will.. in the mean-time people are working successfully from home, the skies have cleared, international meetings are held on line.
lots of frustrating commuter journeys are just not necessary.
the world is cleaning itself almost visibly in days, the skies are clearing.
I think there will be some significant events in about 9 months:
1. A lot of babies being born
2. A lot of divorces.
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
That isn't 3M's fault
Simon ...
So if I place an order for what most would consider life-saving equipment, you accept the order and then in the middle of production, someone from another country comes. They hold up cash and you sell it them instead.
You're saying that's the buyer's fault?
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
What you should be mad at and this is .....the political system that does not regulate them.
Jimmy ...
I disagree. I think there are many corporations that have a social conscious. Many that "could" steal but don't. Many that "could" do illegal things but don't have to have someone looking over their back to "do the right thing".
Do you need regulation? Absolutely. But I am not that cynical that all corporations are as evil as you present it.
Rub a Dub
we are told to have the emblems this year.
no fortified wine or boones farm.
that suits me as i like real wine.
After a good bottle of Merlot or Cabernet, I'll be feeling "special" enough to imagine I'm anointed.
DoC ...
Yes, after a good bottle of wine you may just realize that it is time to come out of the closet and recognize your true status as a member of the anointed.
Rub a Dub
we are told to have the emblems this year.
no fortified wine or boones farm.
that suits me as i like real wine.
How can you take it if you are not the anointed
rfs ...
Only the person knows if he/she is of the anointed.
You can't read another person's heart. So don't try to judge.
I'm not a particular fan of the plain triscuits either (I prefer the balsamic vinegar and basil flavor). But for purposes of the Memorial, it is more proper to stick with the plain, original ones.
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
It's becoming clearer now, at least to me.
On the news this morning, they explained that 3M has a very high investment in China. They make hundreds of products including stuff we use in offices every day; Scotch Brand products. Then a huge number of industrial products. Many (or most) of these are made in China.
Although they produce most of their masks in China, they are not allowed to export them, even though it is a US company and they want to export some to the US. But China wants more and gladly imports as many as they can get. And they will pay top dollar.
So there it is. China won't allow exports but will buy and import. Don't expect to get a respirator out of China, nor gowns, gloves or anything else. But they will buy.
Based on what I see this morning, the shit is hitting the fan and 3M is right in the middle. They are selling some of the US made stuff that we need back to China or other countries who are waving cash in their face.
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
I turned on the TV this morning and see that Trump had made some references yesterday (Thursday) about 3M. He said that he is going to talk to them to assure that we are getting what we need.
I think, just as most other countries already do, we should ban exports of critical items just for a company's financial gain until we have a sufficient supply here.
I still can't believe what is going on. But then, I guess I am a naive Rub.
Rub a Dub
i was watching the local news in the background and i heard a guy talking about 3m and how florida was getting screwed.
i didn't hear the whole report.. later, i was switching through the channels and i saw the same guy talking to tucker carlson (fox news).
come to find out he is the federal cdc equivalent at the state level.
I was watching the local news in the background and I heard a guy talking about 3M and how Florida was getting screwed. I didn't hear the whole report.
Later, I was switching through the channels and I saw the same guy talking to Tucker Carlson (Fox News). Come to find out he is the Federal CDC equivalent at the State level. He is the head of the whole thing and ultimately responsible for the purchases of all the medical stuff for Florida.
Anyway, Carlson asked him if he was getting all the masks and respirators Florida needed. Then the guy went on a roll.
He said he contacted 3M weeks ago. They said they only sell through distributors. He contacted the distributor and ordered several hundred thousand masks since he was told they make about 1 million per week.
He followed up last week on where the masks are. The distributor said he never got any, they are gone. He asked the distributor what happened. He didn't want to answer but finally said, 3M sold them to someone else. What? Yes, someone came with cash and paid a lot more. What? Some state came in and outbid us? And who pays cash? The guy said, foreign countries. They pay whatever you want and they pay cash!
Carlson (and me) nearly fell out of our chairs. The guy said a lot of companies are doing this. It applies to all of these critical items including respirators, gowns, etc. Although most other countries have restrictions on exporting critical items, that doesn't exist in the US. You can just sell to the highest bidder and it is even better if it is all cash. He told the feds what was happening and was told that they will look into it. Isn't that great!
The top brass at 3M (including CEO Roman) should be in prison. Imagine how many lives have been lost due to greed. DISGUSTING.
Rub a Dub
some people i know have not gone out of their houses in weeks.
some will walk near their homes and run right back in.
meanwhile, i go food shopping and i see tons of people, many with masks and gloves on..
We don’t even know what day it is anymore!!
Min ...
You are so right. My wife even got confused yesterday. She asked me if it was Wed or Thur. I honestly had click on the calendar on the computer and see what day was highlighted.
That is no joke.
Rub a Dub