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  Candy

  by duffy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  years ago, while i was still in, i heard coworkers talk about jws leaving candy on their porch.

  i had to tell them i knew nothing about that practice and that i thought it sounded kind of cheesy to be honest.

  over the years i 've heard the same comments about jws leaving candy behind when they find no one at home...

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  Goshawk

  Naw it's just a closet apostate leaving behind a little something that will help get rid of the taste in the "householder's" mouth after reading that crap er literature.
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  Babylon the Great 2005 theory

  by CYRUS THE GREAT 2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  september 8

  september 19

  september 21

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  Goshawk

  First let us calculate the formula
  
  7x360=2520 years
  
  2520-586=1934 let us do some research anything that might have happened that year.
  
  
  ....
  
  Okay anyone see anything wrong with this math, an error that Russel might have made?!?
  
  from 586 to 1934 is 2519 years .... no zero year.
  
  My friends we are having our collective legs pulled in the style of a loose canon as it were.
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  Russell the Man

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  he was asked about this association in .

  a: i have heard of the solon society, yes, sir; but i have nothing to do with it.

  the three "girls" were called to the stand.

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  Goshawk

  Farkel,
  
  Good work thanks for the post. A minor gramatical point I found.
  [quote]
  Many ex-dubs still operate under the misconception that Russell was a kind and honest man. At times, he was. At other times he was cruel, petty, vindictive, arrogant, manipulative and a brazen liar. In that respect, he was much like his [b]predecessor[/b] in Watchtower Crime, Fred Franz.
  [/quote]
  
  Might I suggest the word you were wanting to use is successor.
  
  Regards,
  Goshawk
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  How Tall Are You?

  by Sunspot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we've learned so much about each other and i thought i'd toss this out atcha.....

  i'm five feet tall (or short---however you see it :-) and wondering how tall you are!

  annie

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  Goshawk

  6'4"
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  That They Be Called Shepherds

  by Farkel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently put up a thread which discussed the fact that the wts does not hesitate to promote and sell books containing "old light" to its membership and the public.

  well, that thread was about material things and to a lesser extent spiritual things.. how does the wts feel about spiritual things?

  let's take a peek.

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  Goshawk

  Farkel, there is one thing that the WTS and shepherds have in common.
  
  They both have an affinity for mutton stew, even if it is made from
  the flock they are caring for.
  
  Goshawk
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  Dr. Eugene Mallove Slain, Torch Bearer for Cold Fusion

  by one in

  1. social
  2. current

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  dr. eugene mallove, torch bearer for cold fusion, slain.

  http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/05/15/eugenemallovedies/index.html

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  Goshawk

  This might be a little off-topic. Why is this thread in Child Abuse and not in Current Affairs? ?!?
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  energy secret Sequestered by U.S. Government

  by one in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have not read the whole document but could not wait.... high energy magnetic monopole sequestered by u.s. government.

  read it yourself at the following link.

  http://65.54.246.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=en&lah=e8c686f32f9ea9291e307a3773058bc6&lat=1087082647&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2epesn%2ecom%2f2004%2f06%2f05%2fhighenergymagneticmonopole%2f.

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  Goshawk

  This might be a little off-topic. Why is this thread in Child Abuse and not in Current Affairs? ?!?
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  Things your mom said to you to get you to stop doing things............

  by Sunnygal41 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you keep picking your nose, your nostrils will get as big as a horse's!.

  we can use your face for a halloween mask if it freezes suddenly with that expression on it.. how would you feel if your sister died after you said such awful things to her?

  (this following a normal, sibling scuffle).

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  Goshawk

  The "stop crying" thing was pretty common.
  
  If you keep that up I will stomp you into a mud-hole. (usually interchangeable with one above)
  
  I NEVER talked to my parents like that. (trump card when child was winning the argument or had a good point)
  
  You seem to think the world owes you a living.
  
  Quit feeling sorry for yourself and get your chores done. (usually after punishment had been administered)
  
  If you had the brains god gave a piss-ant you might be able to do something. (ah yes the housework needed done)
  
  You think you are so smart, lets see how you do out in the real world, you wouldn't last a week.
  
  You think you are so abused! (usually said after the tears didn?t stop fast enough)
  
  Jehovah help me and bring Armageddon now. (followed by statements that the child wouldn't survive and why)
  
  I wish you kids had never been born. (usually said in the middle of hysterics or rampage)
  
  But, to end on a lighter note sometimes one would backfire.
  
  Mom: You are all a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothing pups.
  
  Younger Brother: Well, you would know. (only said on one occasion; the beating was brutal and instantaneous)
  
  That one still brings a chuckle now and then, when we brothers get together.
  
  
  Goshawk
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  The Possible Outcome of court cases

  by outoftheorg in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  since reading the post about the molestation trials in texas, i have been pondering on the possible outcome of these cases.

  it is clear that the wbts relies on the firewalls they have set up between the congregations and elders and the corporations.

  it seems that the ones in jeopardy, are the congregations and especially the elders.

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  Goshawk

  IMHO it would depend on the level of success that these civil actions.
  
  If low to moderate levels then it would feed into the local rank and file persecution complex while giving the WT$ a propaganda coup that they would trumpet about for months. Nothing like living well i and being able to decry injustice to others to make one look righteous, even if the sanctimonious leaders abandoned them to face their fate on their own while insulating themselves from any repercussions. (See a pattern here?)
  
  If the rate is high enough that state legislatures step in to remove some of the insulation provided to the upper echelon of the WT$ it might produce significant changes (read more corporations to hide behind) to the methodology of how edicts are handed down to the rank and file.
  
  In either case it will be hard on the local BoE [mentally, physically, emotionally & possibly financial]. The article suggested that a pattern of behavior that both made the elders vulnerable & allowed the accused to act freely again. It may even be the case of a local BoE being saddled with the actions of former elders who were in charge at the time.
  
  A drop in the population of elders and growing reluctance of others to step in a position where they might have to try and defend the decisions of others may also bring about a change in who & how elders are instated.
  
  But, from past experiences of elders abusing their position litigation may be more than warranted in these cases. The problem is getting the judicial system to recognize the degree of control exercised by the GB and/or corporate headquarters while the WT$ lawyers put on a smoke and mirror act to obscure this fact.
  [[Why should the records of proceedings be admitted in the court record, they are private, as private as the confession is to a priest. Surely your honor what reasonable person would allow themselves to be silenced by uneducated, untrained, and un-ordained men we put in position to maintain the congregation err property, further what normal person would not think for themselves? This is just an attempt to make a raid on what appear to be deep pockets of a upstanding religion.]]
  
  The actual truth is I don?t really know what will happen. But observation shows that the WT$ has had its way for so long it arrogantly expects to not have to be responsible for what is said or done in its name.
  
  Goshawk
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  The grain, the chaff and the straw

  by A Paduan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in it's efforts to maintain literal understandings, does the jw religion not determine the difference in a story between the grain, the chaff and straw?

  straw is important indeed - can grain grow without the stalk?

  one can be a user of straw - make earthly wares, hard bricks, even a tower.

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  Goshawk

  To start things off lightly; the word is similar to the bread of life
  in the following ways.
  
  Early on it is unleavened; this means that it is hard to partake and very little
  has been added to it, and it is used to remind some of the journey taken by others
  before them.
  
  If left to sit longer it rises from exposure to levening agents in the environment; this
  could mean that it becomes easier on the palette but has been contaminated by outside
  influences, this could be both good or bad depending on what one wanted.
  
  If left out too long before baking it rises to its full mass then eventually starts to grow
  things not intended by the baker; this means that while it has some unexpected uses (i.e. rudimentary
  antibiotics) it is very unpalatable and most end up turning away from it.
  
  Just my amature opinion
  
  Goshawk