Posts by ClassAvenger

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The name of God

by ClassAvenger in

i have a friend who is a jehovah witness.

once we started talking about prayer, and i told him that we referred to god as 'lord', or 'god', or 'father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say jehovah.

he said that i was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for jehovah and not any other god.

Lol, yeah. What happened was that i thought the first one hadn't gotten submitted or something, so I posted the topic again. Later I found out that the first one actually worked, and therefore there are two. Sorry, I'm a newb.

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The name of God

by ClassAvenger in

i have a friend who is a jehovah witness.

once we started talking about prayer, and i told him that we referred to god as 'lord', or 'god', or 'father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say jehovah.

he said that i was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for jehovah and not any other god.

ClassAvenger

Thanks for the response DJ. I have known this friend for quite some time, and I have learned a lot of the Jehovah Witness religion. I read somewhere that they get confused if a 'wordly' person shows love to them because they have been taught a lot of things about 'wordly' people. I have tried following God's word, or acting accordingly all this time to show him that we are not "misguided" people who don't follow the Word of God. I think that's a start, but I don't know how to start preaching to him in a way he won't reject me or just block himself from any incoming information. I once tried to show him a site, but he told me that they had told him at one of their reunions that they should not trust any webpage on the internet because it was full of apostates. I need some hard information, like two Watch Tower magazines which contradict each other. I know some contradictions have also happened in some of the books they have published. I would be very grateful if you could give me a site which lists contradictions in books, and shows the name of the book and page, so I can write those down and have him check it out himself. Well, thanks for all the information DJ, so far I have far stronger arguments than those he gave me about the name of God. Again, thanks everyone , and keep posting. - Class Avenger

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The name of God

by ClassAvenger in

i have a friend who is a jehovah witness.

once we started talking about prayer, and i told him that we referred to god as 'lord', or 'god', or 'father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say jehovah.

he said that i was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for jehovah and not any other god.

ClassAvenger

Thanks for all the replies. Thanks DJ for your thorough explanation. This friend of mine does not want to lose me as a friend. He is a true friend and he has gone out of his way to keep being my friend. He sometimes tries to put aside the religion, but afterwords the thought comes back to him and he starts thinking that we should not be friends anymore. According to one of the lessons taught to him, making friends with the world is being an enemy of God. He is very desperate, he says he does not want to forget about me or get away from me, but he doesnt want to get dettached from Jehovah either. He is asking me what should we do about this problem, and I know that what he is waiting is for me to become a Jehovah Witness. I dont know what to tell him or what to answer, but my first step will be trying to respond to him about the God/Jehovah name subject with my utmost ability. Don't worry, I am strong in my faith although I am not very knowledgeable, but I know that if I look for the answers, they reinforce my Christian beliefs. Well, thanks and tell me or suggest what I should do about this situation.

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The Name of God

by ClassAvenger in

i have a friend who is a jehovah witness.

once we started talking about prayer, and i told him that we referred to god as 'lord', or 'god', or 'father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say jehovah.

he said that i was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for jehovah and not any other god.

ClassAvenger

Hi. I have a friend who is a Jehovah Witness. Once we started talking about prayer, and I told him that we referred to God as 'Lord', or 'God', or 'Father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say Jehovah. He said that I was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for Jehovah and not any other God. He had several arguments, I will list them here:

"God" is like a title, there are many false gods created by men, and that Satan was the god of evil.
In Matthew 6:9, in the prayer done by Jesus, he states "Hallowed be thy name." According to him, we sanctify or bless his name by saying it.
State that the prayer was for Jehovah and not any other god.
Demons flee when they hear God's name, Jehovah.

I want to have some strong arguments to backfire at him. I know that there is no winning a discussion with a Jehovah Witness, but I need to give him an answer to support my beliefs. Some people in here are very knowledgeable on the bible, so I am seeking their help. Thanks for the information. - Class Avenger

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The name of God

by ClassAvenger in

i have a friend who is a jehovah witness.

once we started talking about prayer, and i told him that we referred to god as 'lord', or 'god', or 'father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say jehovah.

he said that i was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for jehovah and not any other god.

ClassAvenger

Hi. I have a friend who is a Jehovah Witness. Once we started talking about prayer, and I told him that we referred to God as 'Lord', or 'God', or 'Father', for reverence or respect, although we did not have prohibited to say Jehovah. He said that I was wrong, that it was necessary to state that the prayer was for Jehovah and not any other God. He had several arguments, I will list them here:

"God" is like a title, there are many false gods created by men, and that Satan was the god of evil.
In Matthew 6:9, in the prayer done by Jesus, he states "Hallowed be thy name." According to him, we sanctify or bless his name by saying it.
State that the prayer was for Jehovah and not any other god.
Demons flee when they hear God's name, Jehovah.

I want to have some strong arguments to backfire at him. I know that there is no winning a discussion with a Jehovah Witness, but I need to give him an answer to support my beliefs. Some people in here are very knowledgeable on the bible, so I am seeking their help. Thanks for the information. - Class Avenger

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Proof Buddhists Are Happiest Religion??

by metatron in

jw
friends

the link is too long and impossible to post but at yahoo news - health there is an article taken from new scientist.

that analyses brain states during meditation.

they might be able to measure happiness objectively, with appropriate sensors.. .

ClassAvenger

I once heard that those guys would set themselves on fire while they were meditating and just die off without yelling or complaining. Thats pretty freaky. Makes me wonder how stuff like that can be possible, but oh well, there's a lot of weirder stuff out there.

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Missing bible texts

by ClassAvenger in

i've seen that the nwt has some omitted parts in the bible, although sometimes they are included somewhere else and they say that in that version they were taken out.

i was wondering what was the point in doing that.

the missing texts are: matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14 ; mark 7:16, 15:28 ; luke 17:36, 23:17 ; john 5:4, 7:53, and john 8:1-8:11.

ClassAvenger

I understand now. I didn't really think it was something bad, because as you said, in some places they were included as footnotes or on the side. Thanks for the help. I have another question, that maybe does not concern this matter at all, but I would like to know why they put "Holy Ghost" in lowercase letters. I know that maybe you wouldn't like to answer that by yourself, but you can give me a link to a website where I can learn more on this. Thanks for the help.

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Missing bible texts

by ClassAvenger in

i've seen that the nwt has some omitted parts in the bible, although sometimes they are included somewhere else and they say that in that version they were taken out.

i was wondering what was the point in doing that.

the missing texts are: matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14 ; mark 7:16, 15:28 ; luke 17:36, 23:17 ; john 5:4, 7:53, and john 8:1-8:11.

ClassAvenger

I've seen that the NWT has some omitted parts in the bible, although sometimes they are included somewhere else and they say that in that version they were taken out. I was wondering what was the point in doing that. The missing texts are: Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14 ; Mark 7:16, 15:28 ; Luke 17:36, 23:17 ; John 5:4, 7:53, and John 8:1-8:11.

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g2003 5/8 "Does Christian Unity Require Uniformity?"

by GermanXJW in

there is a 2-pages article in the awake!

of 8th may 2003 "does christian unity require uniformity?".

i don't own a scanner, maybe someone can scan the complete article.

ClassAvenger

Lol, this has got nothing to do with the topic, but I've got a JW friend whose mom took him out of extracurricular activities because she said he was dedicating more time to that than to God. Lol, we got a good laugh at that one. Is that being too religious or what?

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g2003 5/8 "Does Christian Unity Require Uniformity?"

by GermanXJW in

there is a 2-pages article in the awake!

of 8th may 2003 "does christian unity require uniformity?".

i don't own a scanner, maybe someone can scan the complete article.

ClassAvenger

Lol, sorry. I'll be more careful with my posts next time. Thanks for the correction.