*** w81 10/1 p. 22 ?Who Really Is the Faithful Steward, the Discreet One?? *** 11 Reason, backed up by similar Scriptural examples, makes it clear that the ?steward? (oikonómos) pictures a class, a collective body, corresponding to a juristic person, a legal person like a corporation that is recognized by the law of the land. (the Government of the United States of America)
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by apocalypse inw81 10/1 p. 22 ?who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one??
11 reason, backed up by similar scriptural examples, makes it clear that the ?steward?
(oikonomos) pictures a class, a collective body, corresponding to a juristic person, a legal person like a corporation that is recognized by the law of the land.
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Clergy/Laity among the Watchtower
by apocalypse indistinction within the watchtower?
all one has to do is turn to the writings of the ?faithful and discreet slave?
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Is there a ?clergy/laity? distinction within the Watchtower?
All one has to do is turn to the writings of the ?faithful and discreet slave? to find the answer.
When referring to themselves, they lack not in the use of glowing terminology in the art of self-glorification.
For example:
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With symbolic hair ?growing luxuriantly,? ?. Down to this year 1967, the ?faithful and discreet slave,? the anointed remnant of Jehovah?s witnesses, has served loyally in Jehovah?s strength, ?
*** w66 10/1 p. 607
The ?faithful and discreet slave? class, both in the days of the apostles and in modern times, has been faithfully carrying ?
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We are thankful to Jehovah for making all these provisions available through ?the faithful and discreet slave.? ? How we love to express our gratitude ?
*** w64 6/15 p. 365 Jehovah, the God of Progressive Revelation ***
? Jehovah?s purposes ? revealed to Jehovah?s anointed ?clear evidence that they are the ones mentioned by Jesus when he foretold a ?faithful and discreet slave? class that would be used to dispense God?s progressive revelations in these last days. Of this class Jesus said: ?Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.??Matt. 24:47.
Now, how do the ?anointed? view the rest of Dubland.
Watchtower June 1, 2004 Page 17-18 par. 15 (next week's study)
Naturally, pioneers are appreciated by fellow Christians for their faithful service. But the fact that they spend more time in the ministry does not make them feel superior to their brothers and sisters. Rather, they cultivate the attitude encouraged by Jesus: ?We are good for nothing slaves. What we have done is what we ought to have done.? Luke 17:10
Supposedly, everything Jesus talked about was to be applied to the ?anointed? first, and then the ?lesser? Earthly class secondly.
Has the Watchtower ever applied Luke 17:10 to themselves? I think NOT! But they like to put dubs IN THEIR PLACE!
So, clearly, the attitude of the ?faithful and discreet? class toward the ?good for nothing class? is revealed as found in the following Watchtower article.
w60 4/1 pp. 208-209 Religious Attitudes When the Master Preached
THE ?PEOPLE OF THE EARTH?
10 The Hebrew expression am ha-arets means ?people of the earth [or, land]{or dub}.? (Jer. 1:18, marginal footnote) These people were treated like dirt under the feet of the Pharisees {anointed}, and, of course, the Sadducees {governing body} had nothing to do with them, because they looked down on everyone. The am ha-arets were poor laborers {at Bethel} who did not know the Law {Watchtower} or the traditions {Awake} or did not keep them. They did not recite the formal prayers {at Kingdom Halls}, have ritual fringes on their garments {Armani suits} or wear phylacteries {ties} at devotions {meetings}, nor did they train their sons in the traditions as did the scrupulous Jews. They were hated and outlawed from the community by the rabbis. One rabbi denied them all hope of a resurrection, and Rabbi Hillel said: ?No am ha-arets is truly religious.? A good Jew would not let his daughter marry one. Their view was: ?Let not a man associate with sinners even to bring them near to the Torah.? When the religionists objected to Jesus? associating with sinners, they doubtless included this class. {The ?good-for-nothing? class}
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Back from the District Convention!
by apocalypse inis there a way to put up audio clips for all to listen to?
i have a few doozies.. man, i lost count of the times they were hammering on "the slave"... obey the slave blah blah and "have faith in the organization.".
"keep repeating the lie, and it will eventually take on a life of its own".
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I am going to email some juicy clips to RR and he is going to put them up.
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Back from the District Convention!
by apocalypse inis there a way to put up audio clips for all to listen to?
i have a few doozies.. man, i lost count of the times they were hammering on "the slave"... obey the slave blah blah and "have faith in the organization.".
"keep repeating the lie, and it will eventually take on a life of its own".
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Is there a way to put up audio clips for all to listen to? I have a few doozies.
Man, I lost count of the times they were hammering on "the slave"... obey the slave blah blah and "have faith in the organization."
"Keep repeating the lie, and it will eventually take on a life of its own"
That quote kept going through my head as I listened to Kenneth A. Little, Co-ordinator for the Canadian Branch as he rambled on all that BULLCHIPS
So many lies were told at this convention, I went numb from them.
I have a few audio clips that would amuse.
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Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED
by apocalypse inthe 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.
1) do not contact the auditorium.
http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.
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Has anyone else phoned Kim Kugler? I would really like for her to see what's going on.
If we got together on this, we could chase Witchtower out of every location.
That would make a deep cut into their "dollar take". If we hit them where their heart is, IN THE BALANCE SHEET, then we will make them hurt.
Remember, District Conventions are Watchtower Corporations biggest source of income. They love all that FREE CA$H.
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Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED
by apocalypse inthe 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.
1) do not contact the auditorium.
http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.
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I am actually looking forward to this convention. I am hoping to hear them howl from the platform... "these APOSTATES are from Satan, why even at this convention they tried to get us kicked out, but Allah prevailed.. woops God.... and...."
Well you get the picture.
I have heard from many longtime dubs how the "assembly is too long" and "how do they expect us to...." etc. They hate it. I can tell you this, that if the management got wise to the Governing Bastards and locked us out, then dubs would JUBILATE.... quietly of course. They would race back to the hotel and scream THERE IS A GOD and jump right in the pool.
I know how happy everyone is the week of an assembly, because the meeting is cancelled. Many even say they are glad to have the night free.
What a farce this religion is. But the GB doesn't care what a facad it is, or what lies they have to tell to perpetuate their kingdom in NY. As long as they get to rule like kings they are pleased.
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Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED
by apocalypse inthe 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.
1) do not contact the auditorium.
http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.
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Well, here it is. I called the Kitchener Memorial Auditorium, and spoke to those in charge. I bet Watchtower's gonna be pissed at me.
At first, I couldn't get the manager, Kim Kugler. I got her later though.
First, I got Bob Stevenson who is in charge of such things. I told him that Watchtower had told us that the reason the Watchtower didn't want the vendors open was that The Auditoroium management would NOT allow for "the special dietary needs" of the minority who have food alergies.
He replied "I can't believe that... I don't know where you are hearing that from" and I went on to inform him that Watchtower had a few letters written and read out repeatedly at all of our Kingdom Halls in preparation for the Convention. He was dismayed, and told my that I should call Kim Kugler.
I called her many times till I got her secretary who put me on hold. Then I spoke to her personally.
I told her that Watchtower had told us that the reason the Watchtower didn't want the vendors open was that The Auditoroium management would NOT allow for "the special dietary needs" of the minority who have food alergies. She was quiet on the other end.
She said that they, the management, had asked to provide the food service but Watchtower said that "they (WT) were encouraging familes to eat together". I could quickly see that the ivory Tower gave her some cockamamie excuse because they didn't want to tell the truth. Let's see how the TRUTH would sound here:
"Well Kim, Watchtower wants all the pie, and we always get the WHOLE pie and you aren't gettin' any pie. If we allow your concessions to open, then there's gonna be a whole lot less pie in our contribution boxes. So stick your food service up your concession stand..."
Nope, I guess they couldn't tell the TRUTH here...
So, I explained to Kim that Watchtower tells one thing to one person, then completely another to someone else. That's the way the Governing Bastards work. And they have been caught more than once in their lying schemes. Kim went on to say that it's NOT TRUE that they were unwilling to allow food and that "they would be accomadating".
Please call Kim Kugler at the number listed, and tell her that "Watchtower has painted the Kitchener Memorial Auditorium Management AS EVIL, stubbornly refusing to make allowance for those with "special dietary needs". How cruel you are Kim Kugler for being so heartless, refusing to allow some sick children and elderly their food, making them starve!"
Evil KIM....
Call now, and tell Kim that Watchtower also said that the Auditorium's vendors are "too expen$ive"
Tell Kim that elders are telling the members to buy their Burger King/Tim Horton/McDonalds stuff anyway and repackage it before entry.
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Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED
by apocalypse inthe 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.
1) do not contact the auditorium.
http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.
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Food Services Doug Farrell Manager (519) 579-5622 Mona Bauman Suite Supervisor (519) 579-5622 Cindy Webb Restaurant Supervisor (519) 579-5622 Restaurant Reservations (519) 579-5576 -
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Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED
by apocalypse inthe 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.
1) do not contact the auditorium.
http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.
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The 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "Walk With God" District convention at the Kitchener Memorial Auditorium June 18-20,2004
Now, we had a letter read out that said:
1) DO NOT CONTACT the Auditorium. http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm
2) The food vendors would be "disruptive and expensive" if allowed to open.
3) The Auditorium would "forbid any food, even for those with special dietary needs" if allowed to open.
4) Do not go to restaurants, basically during convention hours. (Pre-session, or lunch.) You have to go to a grocery store and buy your bread and meat, cut the bun yourself, put the meat on it, and wrap it yourself. Jehovah's Witnesses are hereby BANNED from a hot lunch or breakfast!
Bending the rules, elders have said that if you want to go to a fast food place, then conceal the food before bringing it in. For example, "pour your Tim Horton coffee into a thermos". "Pack you Big Mac in a brown paper bag"
The real reason that Watchtower doesn't want the vendors open:
They don't want the competition for the available funds.
If Jehovah's Witnesses are forced to bring their lunch, then there's only one place to put their money.
IN THE CONTRIBUTION BOX.
The presence of vendors would cut deeply into their "take" as fixed available funds would find their way into the vendors tills instead od Watchtower's coffers.
Proof for outsiders: Go to the convention early and watch the hundreds upon hundreds of CONTRIBUTION BOX (es) magically appear just before the throngs come in, then disappear after the sessions start. The boxes, now empty, magically re-appear in still larger numbers just before lunchtime only to disappear as sessions resume post lunch. They re-emerge, again empty, just as the sessions finalize to drain off the funds of those who pass by.
THE SCIENCE OF MONEY.
I believe Watchtower LIED. Do the "vendors" insist that if they are open, JWs cannot bring in ANY food.
Let's have the truth.
Contact "The AUD"
Mailing Address
Kitchener Memorial Auditorium Complex
400 East Avenue
Kitchener, Ontario
N2H 1Z6Staff Contacts Administration Office Kim Kugler Manager (519) 741-2544 Sue Orlik Administrative Assistant (519) 741-2664 Bob Stevenson Supervisor, Building Operations (519) 741-2546 Jeff Coulter Supervisor, Event Operations (519) 741-2617 Ann Evoy Facility Booking Coordinator (519) 741-2545 Kay Lee Information Clerk (519) 741-2699 General Info Number: (519) 741-2699
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Do you have "Will" leaving your estate to the WTB&TS
by Nadsam in.
do you have will ?...do you really intend to leave it to some swine pedophile loving cult.. .
nadsam...your friendly neighborhood apostate.
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Ha..Ha.
I am still "in", until things change with my aged family members. But I have not now, nor have I ever bequeathed one red cent to Babeltower.
Furthermore, since I am in, I have the opportunity to help others learn the truth about the Governing B's.
One family of four that I enlightened had left a large chunk in their will, to the Filthtower. They have since quit the tower and are thankful for being "enlightened" with "the truth" about "the troof".
As soon as the "truth" hit home, they RAN out to the lawyer and stripped Bilgetower out of the will.
To hell with the tower.