ummmm...I was going to ask a question:
Is it possible to use the terms "normal pro-WT members" and "mentally stable" in the same sentence...? ... but I see its been covered.
ESTEE
Posts by ESTEE
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51Has there, or are there any normal pro-WT members on this forum? As in mentally stable, anybody?
by miseryloveselders infirst off, forgive me if i'm guilty of being judgemental.
i got my own fair share of mental problems.
it goes without saying that a bunch of us on this forum are misfits and freaks.
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Suicide - My column on Freeminds
by Lady Lee inyesterday i spoke of my disfellow-shipping from the jehovahs witnesses.
i had been depressed for many years due to a lifetime of abuse.
as long as i could remember i thought of suicide as the ace up my sleeve; something to do when i thought i could not take it anymore.. after 15 years of marriage to a witness who was emotionally and sexually abusive the thoughts of suicide were on my mind almost constantly.
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ESTEE
Hi Lady Lee,
Yup just pick yourself up and walk out the door.
That's just what I did at age 16...when I left home. I figured anything was better than that on-going abuse. And I did not go back.
A year later my mom left home, too.
I think back now ... she must have figured if I could do it, so could she...
I wish she was still alive. She died in 2000.
Thanks for "being there" for so many people Lady Lee.
Love,
ESTEE
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This is kinda old but comments are nothing short of amusing...
by Yan Bibiyan inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-qy14yqx-0&nr=1&feature=fvwp.
i 'll give you a teaser:.
" #3 blood is sacred and the bible condemns the eating of blood orally or through the veins.
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ESTEE
Thanks for sharing this, Yan!
ESTEE
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Watch the complete fragmentation of the Watchtower begin
by Dogpatch inwow, dudes and dudess, it really looks like glacial fragmentation is inevitable in the mighty mom.. unless j. mason is making this all up.
but his sources seem credible.. kudos j. mason.. somehow i smell a bill bowen in this.
that makes it hot!
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ESTEE
Fragmentation of the Watchtower?
Geez, I'm goin' for popcorn. Can't miss this!
ESTEE
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Are some of you scared?
by BlackTwisted inare some of you scared that armageddon may be coming anytime?
lol.
just the thought and the picture in your head that anybody can get killed....>.<.
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ESTEE
Scared...? Geez, wouldn't I have to believe in that stuff to be scared?
I'm finished with that. It is possible to heal the fear. The opposite of fear is love.
Doesn't the scripture say, "Perfect love throws fear outside"...?
Love,
ESTEE
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ESTEE
Yaaaaaay Mouthy!
Love you!
ESTEE
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How many have you gotten out of the Borg?
by TweetieBird ini'll start -.
i have officially gotten 2 out so far, which is more than i ever got into it, with the exception of my son that i begged not to get baptized.
he, however, is disfellowshipped now and wants nothing to do with the organization.
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ESTEE
only one...my brother. Good a place as any to start!
ESTEE
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Calling All Birds!!!
by snowbird inlittlebird.. tweetiebird.. any other birds?.
please flock hither!
syl.
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ESTEE
It's a bird! It's a plane...it's ESTEE-bird!
I'm a bird-person! We have robins, flickers, woodpeckers, chickadees and many other kinds roosting in our backyard!
Love,
ESTEE
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Making the final break - stopping attending the Memorial
by Eiben Scrood ini started my fade in 2004 and completely quit regular attendance in 2005. i have, however, gone to all the memorials since.
i still consider myself christian and felt it was a somewhat decent way of respecting the sacrifice.. i am thinking of not going this year.. i am generally disgusted at what the memorial observation actually entails.
there is almost no talk about what jesus went through on that day or even the tremendous sacrifice involved and the love that motivated it.
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ESTEE
Congratulations, ES!!!!!
Stop attending the memorial --- and it shows that you have indeed done some healthy growth work! Your relationship with your God-self is no one else's business. That is between you and your higher self alone! And of course, anyone else you wish to share with---like this fine group on JWN!
I'm proud of you!
Love and blessings,
ESTEE
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Did born-in's have the capacity to "test their faith"?
by sabastious in2 corinthians 13: 5a - 5 examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves.. this verse just comes at me like a locomotive.. to examine something is to truly use my mental capacities and to look at something objectively.. how do i accomplish this, even now?.
i was raised in an organization that controlled my information and used fear of rejection as well as my need for approval to "inculcate" the "truth" into me.. by that right, i (and all born-ins) do not have the ability to examine our faith (as a jw).. there will always be an artificial pull either for or against the society (whether we are aware of it or not).. free will has been comprimised; therefore our "faith to our creator" has been tainted and cannot be judged as worthy or unworthy.. of course many of us have regained our ability to discern and look at things objectively.. but i believe that we will never be able to truly look at the watchtower organization without a slant.. not to say the conclusions we come to regards to the organization are not valid (because they are and have been validated).
my point is that the organization has no right to judge and ostracize any born-in for leaving and even for speaking out.. they broke us, and now they are demonizing us for the things we did in that broken state.
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ESTEE
Yup, I was "born in" and tested. I failed the jw test and got myself df'd, but still have plenty of faith! Faith is not something the jw elders can destroy, as hard as they may try.
Love,
ESTEE