DannyBoy,
Thanks for sharing this link with everyone. What a painful and touching story. Good news coverage, I thought. Nice to have someone like Sharon Roe in the world to tell the story.
An ugly little peek inside the annals of jw-ism. . .
ESTEE
this website has received a brief but favorable mention in the sacramento, california "bee" in an article about the bryant tragedy (in oregon).
the bryants had lived in the sacramento area, hence the paper's interest.
here's a link to the on-line story: .
DannyBoy,
Thanks for sharing this link with everyone. What a painful and touching story. Good news coverage, I thought. Nice to have someone like Sharon Roe in the world to tell the story.
An ugly little peek inside the annals of jw-ism. . .
ESTEE
me and the misses come home from a hard day at work together at 9 pm and are busy cleaning up the house.
cleanin cleanin tidy this up n that..... comes to 11:30 pm and we are sorta finishing off, havent had a shag in a week or so, not even a blowy, so i look at her and say.
bathory : so mate, i mean just so i can know, so i can book it in and finish off this stuff, ahh, is there one in it ??.
You got my attention!!! . . .now . . .what wuz the sex question???
ESTEE
i was hoping to enjoy the championship game between the eagles and the bucs.. but no more than 5 or 10 minutes into the game, a budweiser ad comes on that uses a very obvious double entendre (a conversation between a man and woman that revolves around the very large sweatshirt she is wearing.
she makes comments like, "small ones are ok, but big ones just feel better.
" the commercial closes with her remarking about his "small hands".).
For sure! . . .have some fun!!!
I think a sense of humor is very important in life. . .I know that without my sense of humor I would not have survived the "before and after" of the jws. I really appreciate being able to see a lighter side of things, it is a quality about myself that I treasure.
After all, laughter is a massage for the soul!
Love ya all!!!
ESTEE
if you recall i posted a thread dealing with the upcoming canadian television show on the jw child abuse scandal at :.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44236&site=3.
i just want to pass a message along that if anyone watches cbc's "the fifth estate" on wednesday, january 22, 2003 (that's this wednesday night), they should see a promotion for the upcoming jehovah's witness child abuse show at 9:00pm, next wednesday, january 29, 2003.. the promotion should be aired at or near the end of the show - around 9:50 to 9:55 pm on january 22.
(((Scully!)))
Thanks for letting us know. . .I'll be watching. . . and taping!!!!
Love,
Esther
btw, this is what i was told.
.not necessarily what i believe!
(as my disclaimer).
BTW, This is what I was told. . .not necessarily what I believe! (as my disclaimer)
Depending on where someone is from and where they are driving you can make some assumptions about their driving styles and etiquette...
Chicago: One hand on wheel, one hand on horn.
New York: One hand on wheel, one finger out window.
New Jersey: One hand on wheel, one finger out window, cutting across all lanes of traffic.
Boston: One hand on wheel, one hand on newspaper, foot solidly on accelerator.
Scarborough, Ontario: Both hands clenched on steering wheel, driver staring directly forward, cutting in front of you and slowing down to 40 in a 60 zone then looking in rearview mirror in wonder as to why the car behind is flashing high beams.
Los Angeles: One hand on wheel, one hand on nonfat double decaf cappuccino, cradling cell phone, brick on accelerator with gun in lap
Ohio, but driving in California: Both hands on wheel, eyes shut, both feet on brake, quivering in terror.
Italy: Both hands in air and gesturing, both feet on accelerator, head turned to talk to someone in back seat.
Seattle: One hand on latte, one knee on wheel, cradling cell phone, foot on brake, mind on game.
Texas: One hand on wheel, one hand on hunting rifle, alternating between both feet being on the accelerator and both feet on the brake, throwing a McDonald's bag out the window.
West Virginia: Four-wheel drive pickup truck, shotgun mounted in rear window, beer cans on floor, squirrel tails attached to antenna.
Florida: Two hands gripping wheel, blue hair barely visible above window level, driving 35 on the Interstate in the left lane with the left blinker on.
Edmonton, Canada: One gloved hand on wheel, one hand on heater, feet up underneath bum to keep warm, 3 differently decorated ice scrapers, one plastic, broken; one steel, broken; one pastel, hidden in trunk. neither foot on accelerator or brakes because with all the ice on the roads, you're all moving at the same speed either way.
Dubuque, Iowa: no use of turn signal, or left on for 26 blocks...also cradling cheap cell phone.
Maine: Beat up 1983 Dodge Ram pick-up truck, right hand holding a Dunkin Donuts coffee, cigarette dangling from mouth, greasy hair shoved underneath an oil stained cap and classic rock blaring from the radio.
Vancouver: Canadian beer in one hand, B.C. Weed in the other. Dick on the steering wheel
New Orleans: One hand on wheel, one hand holding down sum hookers head while she's giving head!
Pennsylvania: Both hands on reigns.
California: (Bay Area / Silicon Valley) One hand on laptop computer, one hand at on-board navigation/Internet console installed in dash board, cell phone attached to head with microphone earpiece, having a executive meeting with half a dozen people on speaker phone, palm pilot wedged between knees to observe up to date stock quotes, and shoes kicked off, and feet crossed because traffic hasn't moved in the past hour.
Montana: One finger on steering wheel of jacked up 4x4, Charlie Daniels blaring from speakers, dead coyote in back, hay leaves blowing out of bed while going down the highway.
Nebraska: Two hands on wheel, with head lodged up ass, chunks of rust falling off by the pound.
Quebec, Canada: engaged in heated political discussion with espresso in one hand and croissant in the other, aiming for pedestrians who have the mistaken notion that crosswalks are for them.
Michigan: Both hands on wheel and head up ass.
Toronto: Both hands on the wheel, seat as far forward as possible, head fixed only looking forward, ignoring people behind and beside you, stopping and waiting for the road to fully clear before making any forward progress.
Los Angeles: Lowered Honda, can't see over dash, driving too fast or too slow, car sounds like a bee as it goes by.
Like I say, I dunno if this is really true. . .only what I've heard! <shrug>
Love,
ESTEE
you're canadian when
signs showing you might be from canada... .
you're not offended by the term "homo milk".
Hey WildTurkey!!!
How'd you know so much about us Canadians, eh?
ROFLMAO!!! <getting up now, straightening myself out>
Love,
ESTEE
hello everyone.my name is richard and i would like to come back to the truth.i never did get baptized so im not disfellowshiped.my family are still all in the truth,and there lives are so much better than mine.satan has taked over my life completly.and ive had enough.i want to turn my life around and ask jehovah to come back into my heart.i have a very serious drug and alcohol problem.and do not want to live my life like this anymore.i know my life will get better if i let jehovah back in.im just scarred right now.i sill have a little deamon that keeps telling me not to do this.but i really want to.i sure could use some words of encouragement if anyone would like to help i sure would apriciate it.and does anyone know if i can get publcations online...?
my e-mail addy is [email protected] if anyne would like to e-mail me
Richard, you came to the right place by asking us for help, otherwise you would have gone to the elders with this appeal. Yes, we hear your cry for help, right here on this forum. . .You are safe here to talk about yourself. You will not be judged as unworthy here. . .No one here will call you demonic. You will feel supported and nurtured here.
satan has taked over my life completly.
Richard, Satan has not taken over your life. . . That is a jw-ism that you have internalized. That is your own belief system about yourself, turning against you. I'm wondering if the voices inside of yourself are finally believing what you have been told for sooooo many years? That used to be my experience, and it took many years of therapy to start believing healthy things about myself, rather than negative, self-destructive beliefs.
It took me a long time to realize that what my parents taught me . . . was not going to work for me in my life. They did not mean for this to happen, it is merely the way it is. No big deal. So, I needed to ask myself, Okay, if the jw way does not work for me, what WILL work?"
To find the answer, it was necessary for me to tear out the old before I was able to rebuild. It would be unreasonable to build a new house in the same spot where an existing house stood, was how I saw the situation. For me, this began happening around the time of my divorce, six years ago. First, I left the marriage, then I left the religion. . .
The elders finally caught up with me and I was disfellowshipped. I am not an evil person, Richard. I merely would not live by the jw rules of conduct any longer. I realized it was healthy for me to direct my own life, rather than having a body of elders or some organization dictate to me how I should live my life. (italics added because I have personally removed that word from my vocabulary.)
and ive had enough.i want to turn my life around and ask jehovah to come back into my heart.i have a very serious drug and alcohol problem.and do not want to live my life like this anymore.i know my life will get better if i let jehovah back in.
I hear you. . . that you have had enough. And I understand that you have had enough of the kind of unhealthy life that you do not desire for yourself. That is valid. I hear you saying that your life is out of control. I believe your life is out of control, for the moment. Do you believe that living as a drug addict and alcoholic is a healthy way to live? Is that what you choose for yourself? Up till now you have chosen drugs and alcohol. . .and you have the ability within yourself to turn that around. You get to choose that, Richard. You may wish to tell your family doctor what you told us here on the forum. Or show him your post. He will be able to direct you somewhere for the kind of help that you will need to help you turn your life around.
Stop now and picture the life that you want for yourself. Is it living as a jw, cleaning up your life by going in service, underlining watchtowers and living for some unknown future date when God will fix everything in your life, yet somehow you are still feeling unworthy of everlasting life?. . .or do you dare to dream about cleaning up your life by getting off drugs and alcohol, finding a job that you feel good about and that will support what you believe about yourself, namely that you are a worthy person who deserves to feel happy right now in this life. Maybe finding yourself a mate who will think as you do and love you and want to be with you, maybe you want children. . .I don't know. . .You may want to dare to dream about what you would choose for your reality. . .then create the reality. You have it inside yourself to create this reality for yourself. I believe we all do!!!
im just scarred right now.i sill have a little deamon that keeps telling me not to do this.BUT I REALLY WANT TO.
Yes, Richard, I hear that you are feeling scared right now. No, it is not a little demon that keeps telling you not to go back to the jws. It is your own common sense. Yes, you do have common sense. Perhaps you are feeling scared now because you really want to try something different than what you were taught. What you were taught was a scary, high-control religion based on fear. And it is not working for you. Now you get to choose what you really want for yourself and your life, and find a way to achieve it. . .ALL!!! And you may choose to not set limitations for yourself. Dare to live your dream!!!! Choose to make it happen!!!!! You are courageous!! You are a survivor!!!! You got this far, and right now it is very scary. Because now you are on your own, rather than in an organization where other people make your choices for you. And you are in a position where you may choose healthy choices for yourself and your life.
There is a whole big world out there of wonderful opportunities!!!! Believe in yourself!!!!!!
Keep us posted, Richard?
Your sister,
ESTEE
hello to you all, i feel like i know a lot of you because i been here so long and watched you "talking" here so much.
please know that you are all helping many people.
i started to to the e dance called the "lurk" you've all done it or heard of it.
AS IF!!..........WELCOME!!!!!!
Another newbie from Canada!!!!! Apostates!. . . we are doin' a fine job! Keep up the good work!!!
ESTEE
way up here in the great white north we have an epidemic of full amputee dogs.it comes from laying in the snow too long ,the dogs legs freeze and they have to be cut off..i need your money so i can buy skateboards.i can strap the dogs to the boards and take them for a walk.right now these dogs are useless and nobody wants them.what good is a watch dog that just lays there and barks?burglars just step over them while they`re yapping.you can`t play frisbe with them unless your a really good aim.it`s embarrassing to take them out for a drag,they look like an inner tube at the back of a speed boat.commands like:sit,stay,sic-em are meaningless.these dogs spend thier lives with a plate of food in front of them and alot of newspapers behind them.send all the money you can,i won`t use much of it for beer...outlaw .
edited by - outlaw on 19 january 2003 16:22:6edited by - outlaw on 19 january 2003 19:29:32.
(((((OUTLAW!!)))))
Awwwwww. . .I guess I must apologize for my crude outburst of laughter . . .
I had no idea of the urgency of the beer crisis situation!. . . GAWD!!!
I'll send my guys right on up there!!!
ESTEE
Edited by request
Edited by - angharad on 23 January 2003 5:4:14
ladies!
here are 5 secrets to a great relationship that every woman needs to know
1. it is important to find a man who works around the house, occasionally cooks and cleans and who has a job.
(((((siegswife and cruzanheart!!)))))
I am happy for you that you have a wonderful man in your life . . .you are indeed truly fortunate!!!
I have not had that good fortune. . .yet. . .
Love,
ESTEE
EDITED to add: Email, you may need a Penis warmer if you come to Canada!!! LOL!!!
Edited by - ESTEE on 20 January 2003 0:59:24