i was raised a jw, by an inactive jw mom.
looking back, and reflection on my childhood, causes me to wonder.. i honestly did not miss the holidays, for example.
i never had them, so nothing was taken away in that regard.
Like Mulan, it certainly wasn't my experience, and my partner thinks that most exJWs he meets are socially high functioning.
Not that everyone was socially adept in the congregation, but thinkig of my peers who weren't, they were the product of parents (recent converts) who were socially inept and they possibly allowed their faith to exacerbate it in their kids.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/25/call-this-justice-89520-20393945/ .
this little bastard destroyed her life.
he stands to inherit 130 million.
I wonder how having been a JW affects ou approach to the death penalty.
Having spent years with a vengeful barbaraic Jehovah, it would make some sense that some support it. But then again having spent years believing that justice can only be delivered by the Divine would result in us being against it.
The Nothing Man seems to want vengence that will contribute zero to the victim's quality of life. A harsher custodial sentence and significant fine may have been more satisfactory for me.
i've had many encounters with jw's throughout the years and i've found them to be decent, caring people.
i've attending meetings, read a number of awake!
and watchtower publications and so on and so forth.. the book 'crisis of conscious' by ray franz was really eye-opening for me and served as a strong warning for those about to enter the organisation...its easy to fill in the blanks from there -- i never became a jw.
Back to my example, suppose this girl of 16 was Baptized, told her parents she was pregnant and was disfellowshipped by the organisation. Are there examples of parents overriding the organisation, or is it simply get disfellowshipped -- have the baby -- then get reinstated if repentant? If the parents wish to control it instead and rail against the rules, are they given the boot too?
It's highly unlikely the parents will have a say. If she's baptized she stands as an individual before the judicial committee and if her parents kicked up a fuss there'd be repercussions for them. Even if she is disfellowshipped it is within the realms of possibility that the parents will continue to house and care for their daughter and grandchild, although being kicked out the house is also a possibility if the parents are hardliners. In my experience, grandchildren permit JWs to be more lenient in shunning, although not always.
just reading some of the confirmations re the amalgamation of the group study with the tms/sm i see those that have had conversations with their po have been on the board since 2002 (eg yesidid and alligator wisdom).
6 years fading, how the hell are you coping??
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re your comments Blondie: You may have faded, but you have actually left. I'm referring to those that have been on the board long term and still attend meetings and I'm not being critical. I attended meetings for 6 months knowing full well I thought it all baloney, and I felt like my head would burst.
just reading some of the confirmations re the amalgamation of the group study with the tms/sm i see those that have had conversations with their po have been on the board since 2002 (eg yesidid and alligator wisdom).
6 years fading, how the hell are you coping??
?.
Just reading some of the confirmations re the amalgamation of the group study with the TMS/SM I see those that have had conversations with their PO have been on the board since 2002 (eg yesidid and Alligator Wisdom)
6 years fading, how the hell are you coping???
i've had many encounters with jw's throughout the years and i've found them to be decent, caring people.
i've attending meetings, read a number of awake!
and watchtower publications and so on and so forth.. the book 'crisis of conscious' by ray franz was really eye-opening for me and served as a strong warning for those about to enter the organisation...its easy to fill in the blanks from there -- i never became a jw.
She'll have to be baptised to be disfellowshipped. I take it she is....
one thing we all have in common - everybody who started posting on jwd , were all " new " posters in the beginning on this board.
so take yourself back in time for a minute - how were you received here ?
did people welcome you warmly ?
There was no welcome committee when I joined, but I wasn't looking for one, nor was I looking for an online community to belong to. It's a discussion forum, not a club. To me.
so what is the ending of the congregation book study really all about?
surely the biggest winner in this new arrangement is the circuit overseer.
now he only has to take two meetings during his visit and will only "work" from thursday to sunday.
I just told my mother about it. She's a little disappointed as she liked the informal and intimate nature of the BS. Plus, as she lives alone she likes the company. She says it'll alleviate pressure on families and thinks they TMS/SM is the most variable meeting in terms of quality - either being very good or a real drag so is happy for it to be truncated.
And of course it's all due to simplification.
dad, .
since our time on this planet is short, i wanted to take a moment and tell you that you were the person that i loved more than any other person in the world.
nothing has made me sadder than the events that have surrounded this last year; events that were years in the making yet in my mind were unavoidable.
Dawg, it's a good letter (if you can describe something this sad as good). But if it's returned without being opened as others have been, I'd still suggest that you send the postcard saying "i love you" as it's very clear from both your letters that despite how hurt you are, you love him. My dad died before I left the JWs and I know he would have behaved just like yours has and I'm kind of relieved that I was spared it.
All the best at finding closure.
this thread, and others like it, got me thinking that, if this board is representative of society, there is definitely an anti-theist wind blowing in western nations, much more so in europe than here in the united states.
could it happen here as it happened there?.
from edward j. derwinski "religious persecution in the soviet union - transcript".
Hillary
For example, last night I tuned into a US TV evangelist show and caught a snow-haired preacher summing up all he knew about evolution in two sentences and calling those who believe in evolution as 'stupid infidels'. Such talk would not even reach the screens in the UK, not through banning, but with a knowledge that their would not be an audeince for such tripe.
It may not reach the terrestrial channels but the majority here have gone cable/satellite and we now have the entertaining delight's of TV evangelism in the UK. Benny Hinn is my favourite, so shameless!
The secular turn of Western Europe could be just a short interlude before a return to what appears to be the religious default mode. I hope not but I'm not foolish enough to think the state we find ourselves in is guaranteed to continue.
