Posts by scotsman

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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith

by whereami in

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do you think the wts would except this?.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.

scotsman

The longer I spend on JWN surrounded by such a great cloud of atheists

lol PP, fruity language! Agree that the notion on de-baptism is hilarious but the idea that atheists are an organised group is pretty far from the truth. The atheists I know don't share values, just the disbelief in God, and none of them are bothered about proselytising. Most of them do love a good debate though, and aren't threatened when you disagree with them.

Funny how perspectives differ; I'm continually amazed at how dominated the board is by people with faith, normally spoiling for a fight.

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Something that can be said to JW's at the door

by DT in

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imagine this conversation.. witness: so would you enjoy reading this book which explains the bible based hope for everlasting life on a paradise earth?.

householder: yes, i would love to read that.

it sounds fascinating.

scotsman

In the 7 years I've been out they've not knocked at my door either, and working from home means I'm a likely catch. Never seen them on the streets either. They're clearly making a very big effort elsewhere in the last days...

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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing

by Hobo Ken in

this is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.

click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

also free on itunes here.

scotsman

Thanks for the reply IKA. I understand the desire to maintain contact although even though JWs are a high control group I personally still see my family as having chosen to subject themselves to it and I wasn't prepared to play the game for contact, it was too high a price. Responding to the elders who initially tried to contact me would have dignified them when they were nothing to me. That's great his parents remain in touch, siblings are often judgemental, mine are.

I thought you were in touch with your Mum on a fairly ongoing and civil basis

See my mum increasingly sporadically and something tells me it's about to become rare as we no longer have a business connection. Seeing me is probably distressing for her, it's not exactly fulfilling for me. I post too much, I should have other priorities!!

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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing

by Hobo Ken in

this is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.

click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

also free on itunes here.

scotsman

hehe @ scotsman. Probably for the same reasons you don't.

I didn't avoid being disfellowshipped, I avoided meeting a committee that had no relevance to my life, even if it had authority over others. Being disfellowshipped would make no difference to me as I have no family contact anyway.

It's in light of you being disassociated IKA and the impact that must have had on his JW relatives who presumably shunned you that made me wonder why he'd meet with a committee to maintain contact with people who shun his wife. This is not a criticism.

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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing

by Hobo Ken in

this is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.

click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

also free on itunes here.

scotsman

Can I ask (without questioning Matt's integrity!) why he didn't want to be disfellowshipped?

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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing

by Hobo Ken in

this is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.

click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.

also free on itunes here.

scotsman

No, just Mhairi Cameron.

Nice clear recording btw Matt. Superficially it's reminding me of how much I hated veing called "brother".

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Do you have any strawberries recipe?

by asilentone in

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friends

i would like to know what to mix strawberries with, any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

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scotsman

Mix with broken meringue and thick cream = Eton Mess.

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Could a gay-lesbian candidate be elected President?

by The Berean in

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there was a time when blacks and women could not even vote.

so what's next?.

scotsman

It's a slippery slope, if you allow a glbt President you'll end up having siblings asking to stand for election or maybe a monkey will be put up as a front by Neo-cons...

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Could a gay-lesbian candidate be elected President?

by The Berean in

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there was a time when blacks and women could not even vote.

so what's next?.

scotsman

You mean like James Buchanan, the 15th President....?

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Show-down with elder at the kingdom hall

by Hobo Ken in

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this is podcast 8 in the death or obedience series.. this was recorded on christmas day 2008.. after our last visit from two local elders my wife felt she could no longer be known as a jehovah's witness and had chosen to disassociate herself in november 2008.. we had been on a family holiday and had returned to find that one of the local elders who had visited us had warned off my mother-in-law from having anything to do with my wife - her daughter.

he also made false statements about one of my children.. i decided to confront this elder at the kingdom hall.

this podcast is the recording of our conversation.. notice how he denies making such statements to my mother-in-law and falsely accuses me of teaching her beliefs contrary to jehovah's witnesses.. i ask whether it's a sin to no longer be a jehovah's witness?.

scotsman

Jesus, Ronnie Hunter will be loving this attention!