Posts by scotsman

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What do you make of the Alpha Course?

by boyzone in

i've recently been invited to attend an alpha course at my local baptist church and for the last 2 weeks i've gone along.

its all been very amiable and pleasant until this week.

the subject was "why and how should i pray?

scotsman

Boyzone

I know a few people who've been on the Alpha course or associated with churches that promote it. Some left because ultimately it made them suffer from a permanent sense of guilt as it focussed on sin, and how sinful humans are and how undeserving man is of god's kindness. They also felt it to be rather self righteous with a splash of bigotry about homosexuality.

But it also seems to suit a lot of people as the happy clappy version of Calvinism. It's down to you to decide if it's for you.

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The 4 Sexual Deviants

by Farkel in

newer visitors to this board may not be aware of the fact that the first 4 watchtower leaders were all sexual deviants.

i cannot for the life of me figure out how the creator could have personally selected these 4 men as leaders of his only true religion to be examples for all of the faithful.. i especially cannot figure out how the creator would figure these 4 sexual deviants should be used to give sexual marital advice and advice on raising children, since only 1 of the 4 had a kid and he pretty much abandoned that kid for a good part of the kids life.

also, he was the only one who had ever actually had sexual relations although they were mostly adulterous ones.. charles taze russell took "the vow" before his marriage to maria.

scotsman

1 possible adulterer and 3 celibate men. Deviants?? I was hoping for something a bit more titillating.

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ex wants to be free to remarry - ugh

by No Apologies in

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ok, i'm sure i am not the first one to be in this predicament but it sure is a headache, my jw ex called a few days ago, apparently she has met someone (they're not dating of course!

) and she wants to me to hand over the golden ticket.

she wants confirmation either in writing or verbally to a third party, that she is "scripturally free" to remarry.. i have managed for years now to avoid any judicial action and my jw family members still associate with me, but that all could come to a screeching halt if i give her what she wants.. the only bright side is she totally robbed me on the divorce; if she gets married i am at least off the hook for "spousal maintenance", that would mean potentially thousands of dollars in my pocket.... .

scotsman

Tricky one. Depends how long you've been out... and your family still sees you but think you're celibate... doesn't sound like you're close to them. But like other's have said, it's her problem, not yours and there's no guarantee she'll marry this guy so there may be no monetary saving anyway.

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Give Your Advice To Anyone Planning To Fade

by minimus in

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list some thoughts and suggestions for anyone thinking about fading from the organization..

scotsman

Preferably establish a social life outside the JWs then just stop attending. Refuse to discuss your reasons. Put your ego on hold for a while and remember that you have no control over how people react but you have total control as to how you respond. Bite your tongue.

It's much easier if your are single.

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MY LYING MOTHER IN LAW

by iknowall558 in

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this is not a thread to gain sympathy.

my life has changed dramatically over the weekend.

my husband (hoboken) has just left me and my two boys.. i'm not going to divulge all the details, but needless to say things are very tough emotionally for all of us.

scotsman

Sorry to read that this has happened to you Lorraine, I can only imagine the turmoil you'll be going through. You're right that focussing on the boys is your priority and in light of that I'd give writing a letter to your MiL a miss. This is your opportunity to walk even further away from an organisation and people that have hurt you, don't dignify them with your time, instead immerse yourself in the support you've found elsewhere. Giving them an earfull just feeds them.

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the full english

by highdose in

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in my privious thread about sunday mornings i noticed alot of people , including me sited having a full english breakfast.

but the contents of that seemed to change with every person.

so just what exactly does make the traditional full english?.

scotsman

Variants north of the border would be to replace sausages with Lorne sausage, add tattie scones and a slice of fried fruit loaf although I've never been offered the latter outside of Glasgow. Oh and a grilled half tomato (that nobody ever eats).

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I am having some reservations about Barbara Anderson

by JWoods in

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recently, there was a very nice thread in which one of our posters apologized for having the temerity to challenge barbara anderson.. i thought it was very nice to see that they made up and put the personal stuff aside.. however, i felt the need to call it like i really feel it - i was very put off by the barbara anderson reply in which she plugged her new promotional meeting.

it brought back memories of that horrid little affair from a couple of years back when she kept posting up "the greatest new thing about blood which will bring down the watchtower society is just around the corner -- and i could tell you but then i would have to kill you, etc."..

just like another jehovah's witnesses prophecy about the coming of the lord in our time.. i am beginning to wonder if perhaps the siren song of self-promotion is getting a little too strong for real life.. ok. i said it.. james - and saying it was not the easiest thing that i have ever done.

scotsman

Well before it does I'd ask Barbara to keep posting here and rise above James Woods' infantile posting. You're a name, with a profile and have a record of forcing change within the WT so unfortunately you have to ignore this sort of thing.

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I am having some reservations about Barbara Anderson

by JWoods in

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friends

recently, there was a very nice thread in which one of our posters apologized for having the temerity to challenge barbara anderson.. i thought it was very nice to see that they made up and put the personal stuff aside.. however, i felt the need to call it like i really feel it - i was very put off by the barbara anderson reply in which she plugged her new promotional meeting.

it brought back memories of that horrid little affair from a couple of years back when she kept posting up "the greatest new thing about blood which will bring down the watchtower society is just around the corner -- and i could tell you but then i would have to kill you, etc."..

just like another jehovah's witnesses prophecy about the coming of the lord in our time.. i am beginning to wonder if perhaps the siren song of self-promotion is getting a little too strong for real life.. ok. i said it.. james - and saying it was not the easiest thing that i have ever done.

scotsman

Groan

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I am having some reservations about Barbara Anderson

by JWoods in

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friends

recently, there was a very nice thread in which one of our posters apologized for having the temerity to challenge barbara anderson.. i thought it was very nice to see that they made up and put the personal stuff aside.. however, i felt the need to call it like i really feel it - i was very put off by the barbara anderson reply in which she plugged her new promotional meeting.

it brought back memories of that horrid little affair from a couple of years back when she kept posting up "the greatest new thing about blood which will bring down the watchtower society is just around the corner -- and i could tell you but then i would have to kill you, etc."..

just like another jehovah's witnesses prophecy about the coming of the lord in our time.. i am beginning to wonder if perhaps the siren song of self-promotion is getting a little too strong for real life.. ok. i said it.. james - and saying it was not the easiest thing that i have ever done.

scotsman

And feelings must be expressed?

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I am having some reservations about Barbara Anderson

by JWoods in

jw
friends

recently, there was a very nice thread in which one of our posters apologized for having the temerity to challenge barbara anderson.. i thought it was very nice to see that they made up and put the personal stuff aside.. however, i felt the need to call it like i really feel it - i was very put off by the barbara anderson reply in which she plugged her new promotional meeting.

it brought back memories of that horrid little affair from a couple of years back when she kept posting up "the greatest new thing about blood which will bring down the watchtower society is just around the corner -- and i could tell you but then i would have to kill you, etc."..

just like another jehovah's witnesses prophecy about the coming of the lord in our time.. i am beginning to wonder if perhaps the siren song of self-promotion is getting a little too strong for real life.. ok. i said it.. james - and saying it was not the easiest thing that i have ever done.

scotsman

I spent the evening with Barbara recently. She's an intelligent (and attractive) person with a whole lot of spark about here and a very interesting background. The work she does will I'm sure make a difference and I really didn't get the impression of her being ego-driven.

You go girl!