just got this email!.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/15cnd-marriage.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss.
ben (celebratin' with friends).
who knows what's next?
JG, tell me, what is next? We have civil partnerships here and while there's a limited call for marriage I'm unaware of anything next on the marriage horizon and the sky hasn't fallen down across European countries that have introduced similar legislation. What's different about the States, what malign groups lurk in your communities that will bring the end of civilisation?
just got this email!.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/15cnd-marriage.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss.
ben (celebratin' with friends).
Trust me one day America will get with the times
the slippery slope arguement that was mentioned by someone earlier never ceases to amuse me. Polygamy and marrying your pet don't seem to have been percieved as future unions in the UK, but in America... what's with you guys?!
i became 'weak' in the early 80's after being treated badly by a body of elders.
i had not sinned.
quite the opposite.
I resigned as an elder in April 2001 and immediately stopped attending meetings but went back 6 months later to see if a fresh look at it would change my mind. Within a fortnight I knew it was all nonsense but I sweated it out for 6 months to make sure. That last six months must have really pissed the elders off - I grew a beard, dyed my hair, shaved my head, wore vintage trash to the meetings, refused to answer, and read the bible through most of the meetings and told everybody what was on my mind. No wonder they marked me.
ok, my baby brother wants me to come to his graduation ceremony.
from what my mom said, he really wants me there.
here's the situation so far.... i know my aunt/uncle/and cousins, along with my parents and half of my old kh that i grew up with will be there.
Go, be breezy and nice, smiles all round, press flesh - like a hybrid politician/JW and engage no one in meaningful conversation. Leave early.
as you may or may not know yesterday was the mayoral elections in london.. the results are now in, for those who do not know him, here he is....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzaazszlewk&feature=related.
cannot believe it.......................here he is playing football..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en7yvqhamg&feature=related.
what a joke.... paul.
You're right Peppermint, I withdraw my comments. His use of language that minorities have found offensive must surely be down to ignorance on his part. And it's that classic type of philandering Tory, without a track record of implemeting meaningful change that is now mayor. I don't "like" Ken, but he sure as hell had a lot more going for him.
as you may or may not know yesterday was the mayoral elections in london.. the results are now in, for those who do not know him, here he is....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzaazszlewk&feature=related.
cannot believe it.......................here he is playing football..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en7yvqhamg&feature=related.
what a joke.... paul.
I can’t stand Brown. Scottish git…….
One of many.
Nice to see a racist, bigoted homophobe leading London. Soon the rest of the Bullingdon Club will be ruling the country. I'm not a Nationalist but I'd certainly consider it rather than a return to Tory rule.
i was raised a jw, by an inactive jw mom.
looking back, and reflection on my childhood, causes me to wonder.. i honestly did not miss the holidays, for example.
i never had them, so nothing was taken away in that regard.
Like Mulan, it certainly wasn't my experience, and my partner thinks that most exJWs he meets are socially high functioning.
Not that everyone was socially adept in the congregation, but thinkig of my peers who weren't, they were the product of parents (recent converts) who were socially inept and they possibly allowed their faith to exacerbate it in their kids.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/25/call-this-justice-89520-20393945/ .
this little bastard destroyed her life.
he stands to inherit 130 million.
I wonder how having been a JW affects ou approach to the death penalty.
Having spent years with a vengeful barbaraic Jehovah, it would make some sense that some support it. But then again having spent years believing that justice can only be delivered by the Divine would result in us being against it.
The Nothing Man seems to want vengence that will contribute zero to the victim's quality of life. A harsher custodial sentence and significant fine may have been more satisfactory for me.
i've had many encounters with jw's throughout the years and i've found them to be decent, caring people.
i've attending meetings, read a number of awake!
and watchtower publications and so on and so forth.. the book 'crisis of conscious' by ray franz was really eye-opening for me and served as a strong warning for those about to enter the organisation...its easy to fill in the blanks from there -- i never became a jw.
Back to my example, suppose this girl of 16 was Baptized, told her parents she was pregnant and was disfellowshipped by the organisation. Are there examples of parents overriding the organisation, or is it simply get disfellowshipped -- have the baby -- then get reinstated if repentant? If the parents wish to control it instead and rail against the rules, are they given the boot too?
It's highly unlikely the parents will have a say. If she's baptized she stands as an individual before the judicial committee and if her parents kicked up a fuss there'd be repercussions for them. Even if she is disfellowshipped it is within the realms of possibility that the parents will continue to house and care for their daughter and grandchild, although being kicked out the house is also a possibility if the parents are hardliners. In my experience, grandchildren permit JWs to be more lenient in shunning, although not always.
just reading some of the confirmations re the amalgamation of the group study with the tms/sm i see those that have had conversations with their po have been on the board since 2002 (eg yesidid and alligator wisdom).
6 years fading, how the hell are you coping??
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re your comments Blondie: You may have faded, but you have actually left. I'm referring to those that have been on the board long term and still attend meetings and I'm not being critical. I attended meetings for 6 months knowing full well I thought it all baloney, and I felt like my head would burst.
