No, but if they're right about the way the world ends, I want them to see my ass resurrected or anointed for the hell i've been through. That'd be the greatest comeback of all time. ^_~
NaruNaruChan
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Strange picture in this week's Watchtower on porneia?
by eyeslice inlink to picture: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/file/7d83e711-da29-44aa-bde7-f74f9a3d79bd.ashx.
the following caption appeared opposite the paragraph porneia (quote: "porneia includes such acts as oral sex, anal sex, and masterbating another person") what can happen if we ignore warnings?.
now is it just me, but isn't the picture of the little boy trying to rescue his ball from out of a pond just a little weird?
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NaruNaruChan
No offense but if you really believe this line of crap you preach, then explain to me WHY ARE YOU ON THIS FORUM?
IMHO, that picture is a great example of suggestive imagery that cults use to brainwash their followers. I mean listen to this dude, honestly, he verses what he writes in the same manner that one of those WT or awake magazine writers. It's a direct sign of not being able to exercise free-thought when one quotes directly from the literature they read. This is an example of someone who is so far in that he won't stop until he hits rock bottom, realizes what a bunch of excrement the society is full of, and comes on here with his tail between his legs.
God I *HATE* hypocrites. SOJ, you fit right in with the rest of the dubs.
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Finding serenity after leaving the JWs
by NaruNaruChan intonight was such an interesting and profound night for me.
i went to class... well, specifically a class that i enjoy a great deal... with a professor who has inspired me since i began college...
so i'm sitting there, listening to him lecture, watching him walk back and forth across the stage with this huge projection of the u.s. territories in the background... and for the first time in what seems like ages, my soul spoke to me.
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NaruNaruChan
Tonight was such an interesting and profound night for me. I went to class... well, specifically a class that I enjoy a great deal... with a professor who has inspired me since I began college...
So I'm sitting there, listening to him lecture, watching him walk back and forth across the stage with this huge projection of the u.s. territories in the background... and for the first time in what seems like ages, my soul spoke to me. I thought I'd lost it so long ago, and tonight, there it was, right where I left it deep inside myself...
And it told me I'm alright, no matter what I do or where I go, I'll be ok, because I've a good head on my shoulders. It was so profound, and so simple, because I saw myself again as my professor spoke... i saw myself in his sculpture that's on display in the art department. This sixty-five year old man, whose art is entirely based on the common man, the background of our country, or in his words "The guys who come to work early every day, aand would never dream of stealing anything." I watched him, 30 years a professor at fresno state, hobbling in his final semester here before retirement... a man who has taught over 7,000 students nationwide, whose been published in numerous established journals... who has dedicated his life to figuring out things from our human past... and there I was again.. A little tired and sick of waiting inside myself for something to happen. My mind is made up, and I'm going to succeed.
It was funny, because he started talking about this mask that the plains indians made, and the slide was of this mask and he goes "notice how the hair is swept over the eyes. We've got no ethnographic info about why this is so, but in Africa, and my africa students know where I'm going, the eyes are considered dangerous during certain parts of ceremonies.. You know, the evil eye, etc. etc. But I thought I'd bring something interestsing into it, and talk a little about shunning. (He looks at me when he says this for some strange reason, even though he knows NOTHING of my being shunned.) Nothing is more powerful and evil than shunning. It's a horrific method used to break your spirit, to try to get a human being to cave under the power of the evil eye, the lack of speech... " and he went on and on... anyway, I'll get back to that.
For the first time in years tonight, I felt like a student, an employee, an athlete, an artist...a spiritual person... a woman, in essence. I felt like i was one with myself, and this intense feeling of the sublime washed over me. I listened to the soundtrack to the hours in the abandoned courtyard of the art building playing over the loudspeaker.... standing in the rain with my sachel over my shoulder... and I let the rain baptise me into the world again. I remembered what the elders said to me as I walked to meet my girlfriend in the rain... We crossed paths half way in front of the presidential rose garden.. she had an umbrella, and as she walked up to me, I said nothing, took her umbrella, lowered it to the ground and I kissed her. God it feels good to be alive again!!!!
I think I've taken yet another step to letting go.
After class, I sat out in the rain as I said, aand my professor walked up by me and smiled and we chatted about art for a moment... and I brought up shunning. I said " You know, it's interesting to me that you'd mention that particular practice exercised in ancient cultures, because it's still used today... some religions shun members when they leave the congregation, and I'm one of those people." He rolled his eyes and said "My god, you're kidding me. That's horrible~!" and I told him "It's funny because I lost people who I thought were my friends, you know, friends I'd had for years--!" he interrupted me, and said "NO, not friends. NEVER real friends." It was like this light clicked on inside me.
"Not friends. Never friends."
Aand I suddenly realized that really, I'd lost nothing... I'd only found myself.
Tonight, I found myself in a 65 year-old man's lifetime achievement. I found myself in the rain. I found myself kissing my girlfriend surrounded by roses.
I found the sublime.
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Whats been your greatest personal Struggle?
by ScoobySnax inwhats been yours?
be honest.. i know mines always been trying to reconcile being gay and being jw.
as i was growing up it was like being in the middle of 2 polar opposites both tugging at me day in day out, sometimes trying to understand one whilst ignoring the other and vice versa.
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NaruNaruChan
I go back and forth trying to deal with what I've been through... It's funny, because my first post on here was about being disfellowshipped for being a lesbian... and I don't really struggle much with that... after all, it was sort of no big deal to my non-jw family and such.. so i didn't lose blood relatives... but I lost all of my friends when I quit...
I miss them like crazy sometimes, but I don't you know? Like, I don't miss the Jw-isms, in fact I've forgotten most of them.. but I miss hanging out with them when they weren't so stick-up-their-ass-ish. Maybe I'll get to see them again sometime, I dunno.. .but Scoob, it's closure I want as well. LIke, I didn't get to really say "bye" to any of them. I left sooo fast because my stupid conscience turned me in. Arrrgh...
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Good songs to soothe a Disfellowshipped, Disassociated, or Inactive Soul.
by NaruNaruChan ini was listening to some music tonight, and i realized there are a lot of good songs out there to soothe our tormented minds, so i thought i'd post a few of my favorites:.
paula cole "me".
kenna "hell bent" .
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NaruNaruChan
I was listening to some music tonight, and I realized there are a lot of good songs out there to soothe our tormented minds, so I thought I'd post a few of my favorites:
Paula Cole "Me"
Kenna "Hell Bent"
So there's my two. What've you got to contribute?
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homosexuality
by wilton inim am a 19 year old male who is thinking of leaving christianity for another religion.
i am looking at jw first and before i really start studying it i want to know how the religion works on homosexuality because i have a boyfriend and dont want to leave him.and would i be able to go date and have sex with someone not in the religion.. thank you .
wilton
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Because the Sunday after the article had been passed to the P.O., the P.O.'s son came up to me after the Watchtower study and asked "Is it true you're a fag?"
What an a...hole!!! Yeah, whenever I see dubs out in public nowadays, they give me this condescending look of "i'm more of a human than you are." Pisses me off.
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What Ways Did You Rebel Against The Elders & The "Truth"?
by minimus ini used to get a kick out of how some people used to push the elder's buttons.
sisters would wear a dress that was 1 inch above the knee just to get the brothers going.
or brothers would grow something a little longer than a mustache......what did you do to exert your independence??
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NaruNaruChan
Funny thing is, I was a good girl up until the last four months of my hellish experience with JWs. Then i started swearing ALL THE TIME, watching r movies again, not even dressing up for meetings, or (had aa rep for this one) leaving mid-meeting for no reason because I was bored.
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homosexuality
by wilton inim am a 19 year old male who is thinking of leaving christianity for another religion.
i am looking at jw first and before i really start studying it i want to know how the religion works on homosexuality because i have a boyfriend and dont want to leave him.and would i be able to go date and have sex with someone not in the religion.. thank you .
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NaruNaruChan
Being married does not make you not gay.
You know how sometimes you hear stories of husbands leaving families for other men?
This is why. People think if you're gay, marrying someone is the cure. WRONG!!!!!!! All that does is turn a closeted individual into a supposed "perverted homewrecker" load of crap if you ask me. JWs don't believe anything nice about being gay. Check my post history and read my first post, my story, and how i was dfed for being a lesbian. It isn't pretty, and they'll play nice nice with you when you study about it, but they detest homosexuality and consider it a huge ol' sin, so just do yourself a favor and don't mess with JWs. Think buddhism. Much safer for us gays. ^_^
Joker, what in the hell are you talking about? did you pull that comment out of ur butt or what?
Oh, and welcome Quill. ^_^
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After Disassociation or Disfellowshipping, can u still pray or read bible?
by NaruNaruChan in...because i can't, not after what they said to me.
i've been noticing more an more that i'm more athiest than anything else because i don't have a gret attachment to god or spirituality.
ive mentally grouped it as a pseudoscience.
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. I could be wrong, but the issue doesn't seem to me to be dfing or daing... the issue seems to be that you no longer believe in the Bible.
That's exactly what it is. If i may say so you guys are so awesome. That's exactly what i needed to hear, that it's ok to be this way, because it resurfaces in such a way that it damn near disables me. My semester grades are shot because of the depression, which adds to the "I'm a failure" feeling.
I don't think i'll ever be any form of christian again, not because of jws so much as because I really just don't buy what the bible tells me. it's too... bigoted, fake, etc. You all know it, I don't need to reprocess the info and put it out. Thanks for the support and hugs. You all made my day worth it.
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After Disassociation or Disfellowshipping, can u still pray or read bible?
by NaruNaruChan in...because i can't, not after what they said to me.
i've been noticing more an more that i'm more athiest than anything else because i don't have a gret attachment to god or spirituality.
ive mentally grouped it as a pseudoscience.
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Yeah, that's my reason too. funny thing is i bounce back quick, but its been a year and although I've thought it was over, the depression I mean, sometimes it comes right back. Doesn't take much, either. just have to see someone I knew sometimes and boom, there it is. Stupid org. Wish I never joined.