Posts by RAYZORBLADE

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Are JW's REALLY the cause of people committing suicide?

by scotoma in

blame the cult.

blame the cult.. suicide is a very complicated behavior.. mental health professionals caution against assigning blame when people kill themselves.. being disfellowshipped is a life stress and some people are not equipped mentally to handle it.

RAYZORBLADE

I received word from granny (Mouthy) about Oompa.

There's no doubt in my own personal reflection of decades ago, despite our own degrees of coping mechanisms and mental strengths and weaknesses, that the WTBTS really has its claws deep within you. Once you are out of that, you feel isolated, rejected and scared. I know I was. I have no idea how I got through it, but fortunately for me I did.

It is your life while you are a follower: your so-called support network (which is like catching a bowling ball in a spider's web), when removed ... including your family, children and congregational friends; for some it's a near-death sentence. In this case, definitely a massively contributing factor.

Tragedy! Tragedy! Tragedy!

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so oompa got df'd this week...

by oompa in

jw
friends

no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

RAYZORBLADE

Mouthy: granny send me an e-mail regarding Oompa.

What a heartbreak!!!

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What was the biggest lie that you have ever told any JWs while you were still a JW?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i was deleted as ms some years ago, a brother thought i became an elder.

at the circuit assembly, he asked me if i am elder now, i said yes so the brother told me all of the gritty details about his wife and her sister that got disfellowshipped at the same time.

they went out with the worldly guys and they both got pregnant.

RAYZORBLADE

Similar to what 'Maninthemiddle' stated.

That I was happy to be among them. Couldn't have been further from the truth. Yet I kept on pretending; perhaps trying to convince myself that it was ME and nothing else.

The more I said I was happy, the more miserable I became on the inside.

So yes, it was probably the biggest lie while I was with them.

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Did you have to try another church or religion on your way to unbelief?

by donny in

back in 1992 when i was slowly extricating my way out of the wacthtower, there was no internet, smart phones or any other type of quick data download available.

i had basically 3 choices to obtain viewpoints from ex-jw's.. #1 - go to go to the library and look for books critical of the society.

#2 - go to a christian book store to look for the same.. #3 - order item like these from addresses or phone numbers listed in the back of these publications.. and while doing any of these things, you were always looking over your shoulder to see if any "brothers" were around.. the problem i experienced is that virtually all of these books, while giving you good reason to doubt the watchtower, always pointed to "christendom" as the way you needed to go.

RAYZORBLADE

Good thread Donny.

I hesitated for a few years after I left the Jehovah's Witnesses for good. I visited a Protestant church for an extended period of time and even a synagogue. I spoke with various religious groups over the phone on occasion. Eventually, they just annoyed the hell out of me.

We're SO lucky nowadays. As you said: no need to dress-up or wear a tie. Just click here; enter words there: PRESTO! all the info you needed.

Yes, I have been in other churches since and more recently with a family funeral. The sermons were hollow and meaningless; sitting there listening to mindless drivel that couldn't even comfort a flea. I remembered the man in the casket, only a foot away from me thinking: 'this is NOT you they're talking about is it?'.

It made me re-confirm my resolve to 'Go it alone!'.

I've been godless for eons: couldn't be happier.

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Your LAST door

by RAYZORBLADE in

just curious.

would anyone like to share, if they feel like it, their memory of the last door they ever knocked on?

i was with about 3 or 4 other people, all sisters.

RAYZORBLADE

I knew I had started this thread. Felt good about posting it, because everyone eventually will have a "Last Door".

Thank you Cofty, Clarity, Slimboyfat and Finallysomepride for your follow-ups.

It can be different things for different former JW's, but that last door for me was a moment of quiet release. It didn't make it easier AFTER I had done my 'last door', but it was memorable because for several minutes that evening back in November 1983, I didn't feel like a liar.

Just spoke like a neighbour would to another neighbour. It was such a relief. Interestingly enough, the 'last door' was friendly and receptive, but I could not do my door-to-door speech; dealing with my own personal issues at the time; thinking I was even remotely genuine?

It sort of occured to me: I was looking good to others, fooling them even. But why was it OK to be a quiet hypocrite to Jehovah? Ya know!?

That woman, wherever she may be ... will be permanently etched in my mind's eye.

She was a solace without even knowing it.

Damn glad my knuckles don't ache anymore.

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Your LAST door

by RAYZORBLADE in

just curious.

would anyone like to share, if they feel like it, their memory of the last door they ever knocked on?

i was with about 3 or 4 other people, all sisters.

RAYZORBLADE

I hope that this isn't bothersome to resurrect this topic, but I had to, only because I was back in this vacinity yesterday.

On Monday, September 10, 2012 - I happened to be in a part of western Toronto I seldom if ever have purpose or reason to visit there. But there I was due to a pre-arranged appointment. I decided for 'old times sake', to venture near to my ...

"Last Door"

... it was interesting, because as it's been nearly 30 years, the place has changed; trees have grown considerably; houses have been renovated; new businesses; construction and new condominiums. All changed.

As the streets went by from west to east (I was headed to the subway), I pretty much found the street where I had done my "last door".

I often wondered what became of the woman I spoke to; her mother has probably no doubtedly passed away. I of course, never went back to the Jehovah's Witnesses, and well our lives have changed significantly. Tempted as I was to go up that street, I did not.

I would've been Auxiliary Pioneering back in both October and November 1983.

29 years ago. Hard to believe.

Anyone recall or doing similarly? Thanks.

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Vancouver, BC. Canada (bound volumes from 1940-2000) approximately - to Give Away!!

by RAYZORBLADE in

i am acting as an in-between for a good friend who is not part of this site.

his family were a century involved in the wtbts in the lower bc mainland; not to mention nw washington state.. he is no longer a member of the jw's.

we're great friends; i knew him 25 years ago, long before i discovered this site (love it simon: yes, still all those years later).. anyways, he wants to get rid of bound volumes from approximately from the years: 1940 - until - 2000.. he asked me to intervene.

RAYZORBLADE

Thank you for picking these up.

Everyone involved was quite happy to see them go to someone who will put them to good use.

They also commented that you were very kind and nice to deal with. I had no idea about the really old Watchtower issues; just the ones from 1940s and 1950s (info that was given to me initially).

It will be interesting to see what you discover while reading these old volumes.

Thank you for picking these up NCC-1701.

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Vancouver, BC. Canada (bound volumes from 1940-2000) approximately - to Give Away!!

by RAYZORBLADE in

i am acting as an in-between for a good friend who is not part of this site.

his family were a century involved in the wtbts in the lower bc mainland; not to mention nw washington state.. he is no longer a member of the jw's.

we're great friends; i knew him 25 years ago, long before i discovered this site (love it simon: yes, still all those years later).. anyways, he wants to get rid of bound volumes from approximately from the years: 1940 - until - 2000.. he asked me to intervene.

RAYZORBLADE

I spoke with my friend and he said that someone came by to pick up ALL of the bound volumes.

Not sure who it is, but all I know is: they're gone!!

Thank you whomever you are. And if you wish to post a follow-up: that would be nice.

No need for a personal name, but your profile post would be cool.

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How Do The Two Masturbation Guys Feel?

by RayPublisher in

i'm wondering how they feel about their likeness being spammed all over the internet right now?

i'll bet they didn't sign up for this kind of attention.. it reminds me of an article wired magazine did on youtube a couple years ago about people that had their careers or social life ruined by a viral youtube video.. anyway, it would be interesting to find out who these guys are and what may or may not end up happening with them over this..

RAYZORBLADE

RubaDub: your last comment had me in fits of laughter.

The two men in the videos obviously now will live on in infamy.

There's no doubt some 'previous' experience was beneficial in the creation of this wonderful 'viral' video.

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The deaf strike back! YouTuber posts sign language response to masturbation video...

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xiho8btyo.

it's great to see that the deaf community receiving some objective reaction in sign language to crazy jw beliefs.

cedars.

RAYZORBLADE

Fantastic.

JW's have garnered some attention; perhaps not quite the kind that they'd've imagined.

Loved this woman's response. And yes, nice to see a member of the Deaf community: have their say.