Posts by Tech49

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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends

by Tech49 in

here we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.

although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.

not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.

Tech49

Just a minor update to my original post:

The new releases from the DC have moved from the coffee table. They got dusty, and in the midst of cleaning, at some point, got relegated to the bookshelf. Too funny, I don't think anyone in the house has even opened them. I opened the new book just to check the fact that it was printed in ANOTHER COUNTRY.... ANOTHER CONTINENT!

I digress...

A week or so ago I noted the following little event... it made me laugh a little..

Ms Harper (Vic) usually studies her WT for Sunday on her IPAD. Cool, alot of people do, I myself am more old school, I like paper and ink for that sort of thing. Kids and I are watching an action/thriller movie, with copious amounts of gunfire, bloodshed, and general mayhem. Volume is a little loud, and I am just sure that Vic is soon going to ask us to turn it down.

She wanders in, sits down on the couch with us, and pulls out her IPAD. Now, I can see, she opens IBOOKS, and opens the WT for Sunday. As gunfire and car chases abound in the background, with bad guys being dispatched as needed, she is busy highlighting her WT. This continues for about 10 minutes, and I watch as she gets to about paragraph 6....... then folds it up and sets it aside.

She says, and I quote: "What did I miss?"

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Tech49 on HOURS, TIME, and REPORTS

by Tech49 in

i thought i would share some of my observations on counting field service time, reports, etc.

and how those reports are viewed, to those that are still so fixated on numbers.. i served as secretary on the service committee for many years, and have seen it all!.

i was really disheartened when wt changed the requirement for aux pioneering to allow for 30 hrs, instead of the 50 it has been for so long.

Tech49

I have been pretty lax on turning in any FS reports for the last few months, for several reasons.

1. Its silly. Its a misused indicator of someone's "spiritual health"... what I do is none of anyones business.

2. A test. If I don't turn in any time, how long before someone says anything? Does anyone give a rip? Are the elders REALLY concerned about their flock? Is my FSG Overseer and his assistant (both are elders) really aware of their group.?

The answer to #2 came a couple of weeks ago. With the end of the Service Year on Aug 31, the Secretary was busy making sure all his facts and figures were up to date to turn in ASAP, to complete his annual report. I got a couple of calls, looking for some missing time. I ignored them. Really? I dont go out in FS and all I get is a call looking for a number? Seriously? Really?

So he couldn't get hold of me, so he called Victoria (Ms Harper)...... here is a brief synopsis of their conversation, as related to me:

Secretary: I need yours Mr Harper's time that I am missing... Do you know how many hours Jack got the last 2 months?

Vic: Um... mine is xx.xx I don't know what his is.

Sec: Oh, I see. Well, I need to finish this report..... so I guess I will just put him down for the same amount as you..... I am sure that you guys are about the same.

Vic: OK?. If that's what you want to do....doesnt seem right, but you should probably ask him...??

Sec: Well, ok, I will try and give him a call again.

Summary: He guessed. He fabricated (lied?). No one ever spoke to me about it. Pure fabrications, as are most of the facts and figures, as discussed in this thread at the beginning. Disgusting, yet typical.

Jack Harper, Tech49

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An Elder Reads CoC !!

by TTATTelder in

i have recently joined the site.

i was just appointed an elder this summer.

i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.

Tech49

You will find several, more than a few in fact, individuals here, with similar stories to yours. Some, like myself, are still a part of the congregation, but have taken 2 big steps back, and are just watching. Changes that are happening almost daily become a source of entertainment, not a revelation of "new light".

There is the realization that the Play that unfolds in front of you is not real. Then at some point you realize that what you have forced yourself to believe, despite what your deepest conscience tells you, is a fabrication. Its a sham. It endears a sort of dumfounded, mouth-open, WTF have-I-been-doing moment.

It will take a while for it all to sink in; for some, like myself, it may take even longer. There are some things I struggle with every day...this whole charade has been on my mind EVERY DAY for almost 2 years. It has taken over 40 years to grind it into my being, it will take more than a few to get out from under the cultish control, and find myself............... ourselves.

Its good to have a place to chat with others who have similar feelings. Spend some time looking at past posts, you will quickly find others in your same state of awakening. Welcome.

Jack Harper, Tech49

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What Assembly were you baptized at...

by vilot in

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i was baptized at the 1976 "sacret secret" dc at inglewood ca there must have been 50,000 people there..

Tech49

1984, Surrey, BC Circuit Assembly

Attended DC's at Tacoma Dome for many years. Puyallup Assembly hall was remodeled abou 15 years ago. Woodburn assembly hall is no longer orange...lately DC's are in Portland and Salem.

Tech49

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Check this out- JW Car Lot

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

http://www.circuitvehicles.com/home/.

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Tech49

Here is something I have never understood....... why do the CO's get to drive big luxury rigs, like Buicks (seem to be the most popular).?? Most of the time, they don't take them in Field Service, the other brothers take them in their cars (oh what a privilege!). So these big gas guzzling Buicks are just for running to and fro from the KH and the Circuit Apartment, to assemblies, etc.

Why not a Honda? Or a Toyota? Even Kia and Huyandai make some pretty decent larger sedans....I would think it would cost the brothers less in the long run, and the TOAA funds would go further?!!

I looked up the Buicks for sale in my area (Pacific NW), and saw that they were overpriced as well. Sad, really. Why is it that the average family is scrimping, saving, and using their funds to get the most out of their $$$, but WT doesnt? I know LOTS of families driving 15-20year old cars, because thats what they have! It breaks, you fix it! Old POS Toyotas, Hondas, Fords, and Chevy's are pretty common, and do just fine. How about that 10 year old Suburban or Tahoe? Works great for Field Service!

Oh, thats right, now I remember,.....its OPM..... other peoples money. The life of the Elite.........

Tech49

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Are Baptism numbers going down?

by Julia Orwell in

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We recently had our Circuit Assembly, 1,000 attendance with 3 baptized, all 3 under 18 and they were "buddies". I know 2 of the 3, and niether of them cares for anything other than skateboards and bmx bikes. The other half of the circuit had an attendance of 1200, with 6 baptized, same age group and level of "maturity". It was almost laughable. Pitiful really. I too remember when it was very common to have at least 1 from each congregation, and they would be serious students at that. Not anymore.

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Okage Takes Issue with: November 1st 2013 Watchtower Magazine

by okage in

just a few issues i had from looking at this potential new york-printed toilet paper:.

pg 4: the lie that made god nameless.

this sub-article talks about how god's name is jehovah and quotes isaiah 42:8 "i am jehovah.

Tech49

Just to clarify, there are actually 3 different WT magazines printed each month (besides the single issue of AWAKE)

1. The PUBLIC copy for placement and distribution, full of pretty pictures, big margins, and lots of bullet points.

2. The STUDY copy to be used at the KH on Sunday's program.

3. The SIMPLIFIED STUDY copy of the STUDY copy, same but re-worded and with more pictures, for all you who can't understand the really big words in the regular one.

Tech49

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Excuse me.......What Does GOD Need With a Starship ?

by Tech49 in

i have been pondering this thought for a while now, perhaps you all can expound on it a bid.

the bible describes god as "jealous", having great "rage".

"burning anger".

Tech49

Perhaps a more current question, voiced by Capt Kirk, might be....

"What does God need with a new lakeside compound in upstate NY.??"

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Education Double Standard

by Tech49 in

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this is the kind of thing that really burns me.. .

wtbts holds out an extreme double standard in regards to education.

most, if not all, of you know how they feel about obtaining an education past high school (in the u.s.).

Tech49

PS.. after re-reading the comments in this and other threads, I am continually impressed at the deliberate, articulate, concise and artful display of ya'lls posts.

Cudos to you all, and thank you for being out there in cyber-space to hear our rants.

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Education Double Standard

by Tech49 in

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this is the kind of thing that really burns me.. .

wtbts holds out an extreme double standard in regards to education.

most, if not all, of you know how they feel about obtaining an education past high school (in the u.s.).

Tech49

I thought I would bring this topic back up to the top, considering the new letter that will be read to the congregations this coming week, asking for help on the Warwick project.

It never ceases to amaze me, that if you just step back and look at things from a different perspective, the double-talk and hypocrisy becomes blatantly obvious.

Tech49