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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-16-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study

february 1, 2003.

"have love among yourselves".

rebel

Thanks 95 - glad to know I'm not alone.

Since I stopped going to meetings (I have been to 4 meetings since November 2002), I feel stronger spiritually than I have ever felt before! This is all thanks to you guys on this board. I have learnt so much from you. You have more sense than the whole of the GB put together.

I get so angry when I meet people from my congregation and they look at me pityingly and say things like "I hope you will come back to the truth soon". How dare they! They are judging my spirituality by my meeting attendance and hours on field ministry. I wish I could explain everything to them.

As a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, I would be so grateful.. What do I tell him? He asks why I don't go to meetings any more. He is so concerned and thinks I am in danger of dying at Armageddon. How do I start explaining things to him. I want to get him out of this hateful cult, but I do not want to hurt him.

xxR

By the way - he is 20

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JWs and extracurricular activities

by MoeJoJoJo in

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jw children miss out on so much.

i was raised as a jw and there were so many school activities that i wanted to participate in but was not allowed.

i remember my gym teacher encouraging me to go out for soccer, i asked my parents if i could and of course i knew the answer would be no even before i asked.

rebel

I used to have such a battle with my inner feelings over this issue.

My poor kids - they must have sensed that I was not 100% behind banning them from karate, Guides, Scouts, school choir, school musical performance, school trips......good grief, the list goes on.

My husband was (and most definitely still is) a control freak and would not allow them to participate in any of the above. I was more easy-going (he used to say I was spiritually wishy-washy) and I didn't mind what they did within reason. I knew we had to be careful not to let other JWs know what we were doing or they would label us as bad associates.

WHAT UTTER ROT! I am so angry that I went along with this garbage. I am too annoyed to write any more.

xxR

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Keep doing this until I return

by Caliban in

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if jesus said to keep celebrating the memorial 'until he returned' and he returned in 1914 then why do we still celebrate the memorial?

isn't he here already!?!.

can anyone enlighten me?

rebel

Sorry Nathan Natas - this is weird! Always happens!

I was going to say there is a scripture in 1Corinthians 11:26 where Paul says we must keep eating the loaf and drinking the cup until the Lord arrives. When I asked my husband why, if Jesus arrived in 1914, JWs still keep on doing this, he said I was splitting hairs!!!

xxR

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Keep doing this until I return

by Caliban in

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if jesus said to keep celebrating the memorial 'until he returned' and he returned in 1914 then why do we still celebrate the memorial?

isn't he here already!?!.

can anyone enlighten me?

rebel

Nathan Natas,

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-16-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study

february 1, 2003.

"have love among yourselves".

rebel

Blondie,

I was never a very good student and my Bible knowledge is pretty poor. But I really look forward to your comments on the WT Study. I am starting to find it easier to see these articles for what they really are. I can now pick out the loaded language and sickening terms they use. My husband told me that I must read today's article because it was written especially to help people like me - the lost and spiritually weak. I read it this afternoon, with the help of your comments, and it made me want to puke!

Thanks for your help.

xxRoz

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #41

by ozziepost in

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well, how's your weekend goin'?

mrs ozzie's soakin' in her bubble bath, listening to the rain falling outside, and all is quiet this evenin'.

bumped into a branch committee member in the supermarket earlier today.

rebel

None of these really. I suppose you could say it was sort of number 4. I really thought that this was what God expected and this was the way to serve him.

Dumb, wasn't I?

xxR

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The "Organization is Imperfect" Fallacy

by metatron in

when confronted with hard evidence of corruption or doctrinal error, many witnesses are now quick to assert that.

"the organization is imperfect" or "they make mistakes sometimes".

in this fashion, they can retain their extreme allegiance.

rebel

Beryl,

What you said about the Catholic church is so true. You can stop going to mass and everyone in your local church still speaks to you. You can live your life the way you see fit and they are not told by the priest whether you are good company or not. The Catholic church does not stop children from associating with their parents and vice versa. The Catholic church does not stop you from reading literature from other religions, it does not stop you associating with people from other religions, it does not try to control your every thought and every move. You can tell your local priest that you don't believe the Pope is infallible, and he will tell you to pray about it and he will pray for you too - he won't have you kicked out of the church and make sure you are shunned by the congregation.

The WTS does all the above. They are forever running down the Catholics, yet they have a poorer and sicker track record. I am not supporting the RC church, but it makes me sick to hear JWs constantly tearing Catholics apart and ridiculing their beliefs when the WTS has the most ridiculous beliefs of all.

xxR

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Apostate Fighters!

by LuckyLucy in

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i was at work the other day and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.. i don't blame him i wouldn't want to talk to people face to face.. the awake has an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?

" here is a paragraph that .

caught my eye;.

rebel

Sorry! I may get the chance to reply properly before I get timed out.

I was going to say this is sickening. The WTS seems to be trying to make people shun us even if we are not DFd or DAd. Their wording is very clever and they are implying that we are fighting against God.

I wish the people I knew would just step outside the organisation for a minute and think for themselves. I wish they would just stop and realise what is happening to them. It is such a hard thing to do when you are immersed in all this garbage. I can see things so much more clearly now than I ever could when I was struggling on the inside of this hateful cult.

xxR

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Apostate Fighters!

by LuckyLucy in

jw
friends

i was at work the other day and a jw slipped a watchtower and awake in the mail slot.. i don't blame him i wouldn't want to talk to people face to face.. the awake has an article titled "is there an unforgivable sin?

" here is a paragraph that .

caught my eye;.

rebel

This is sickening.

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are JW's classist?

by Azalo in

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is it just coincidence or do jw's seem to prefer members to be of at least middle class standing.

i cant think of one brother who had to struggle to make ends meet who became an elder or ms. in fact it seems like those ones were often viewed as weak.

any thoughts?

rebel

Azalo,

They most definitely are classist where I come from. The only elders we have are extremely affluent. The working-class don't seem to get a look in. That's another reason why elders find it so hard to identify with the average JW - they live in a different world (at least in my old congregation)

Also, the wealthy only seem to mix with the wealthy and those of us who are further down the financial ladder stick together. Like attracts like. All this talk about being one brotherhood is just a fairy tale.

xxR