Posts by rebel

What are you implying, JH? That people who still go to meetings but who post on this board are trolls? What does that mean? I post on this board. If I want to go to a meeting, that's my business. Maybe I am in the process of fading. Maybe I am DFd or DAd and enjoy sitting at the back of the KH being ignored. Maybe I love going to the meetings and am still a loyal JW. So what - does that make me a troll? What does that mean? Can someone enlighten me?

And, as someone already mentioned, do you have any idea how many time zones are involved on this board? There will always be people attending meetings because of that. We don't all live in your time zone.

xxR

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Is the Watchtower Sterile Seed?

by jgnat in

wt february 1

keep bearing much fruit

study march 23, 2003

rebel

This is something that always made me angry. I remember the ones at the literature counter, with their ton-weigth of magazines, smugly looking down at my half-dozen or so.

I get so annoyed when the WTS equates being a good Christian with the amount of literature placed and the amount of hours on field service. They don't think that compassion, love, kindness, tenderness etc matters one jot. You can have someone that is so kind and always has time for others, but if he/she is not putting enough hours in or placing hundreds of mags, they are worthless. In my old congregation, the ones that did the most hours & placed books by the trolley load were not necessarily the nicest people.

xxR

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How to help my son escape

by rebel in

the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

rebel

Thanks everyone. I have saved your replies and will go through them later.

I am not very good when I am put on the spot. Someone once told me (before I became a JW) that you should never argue with a JW over Bible doctrine because they know their Bibles inside out. I do tend to go to pieces when I try to put my point across to JWs - they can run rings around me if they are quoting the Bible. At least I can do some research beforehand.

Thanks

xxR

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How to help my son escape

by rebel in

the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

rebel

Thanks fo your input guys.

As jgnat pointed out, he is 20 now, but a very naive 20. He doesn't like confrontation and hates to upset anyone. He is really a sweet kid but I worry about him.

I take on board what you all say. My eldest says I should leave him to make up his own mind. I think I should, but I don't want him to get hurt. The more I find out about this organisation, the more worried I get. I'd hate for him to get in deeper, such as become an MS. He is well liked in the congregation and very popular. I panic when I think of him marrying a JW and bringing up his kids as JWs. Mabe I should just mind my own business.

I have tried to look at it this way. If he feels he can serve God by being a JW, then I should let him. It's just that he hates it when the elders come down on me for non-meeting attendance. He will be gutted if/when they DF or DA me, which I feel is only a matter of time. I haven't done anything worthy of being DFd, but I have seen them do this to someone else who hadn't done anything other than not go to meetings. I won't be going to the Memorial which will annoy our PO even more. He said he 'expects' to see me there (message relayed via my husband). I told my husband to tell him to go and boil his head!

xxR

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How to help my son escape

by rebel in

the quote below was on another thread but i was afraid it would get lost.. "as a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, i would be so grateful.. what do i tell him?

he asks why i don't go to meetings any more.

he is so concerned and thinks i am in danger of dying at armageddon.

rebel

The quote below was on another thread but I was afraid it would get lost.

"As a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, I would be so grateful.. What do I tell him? He asks why I don't go to meetings any more. He is so concerned and thinks I am in danger of dying at Armageddon. How do I start explaining things to him. I want to get him out of this hateful cult, but I do not want to hurt him. "

xxR

My son is such a good boy but he is torn between me and his dad. I think he will feel disloyal to discuss the society in a negative light. Any sugestions on how to approach this (bear in mind that I dragged my family into this mess)

XXR

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-16-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 3-16-03 wt study

february 1, 2003.

"have love among yourselves".

rebel

Thanks 95 - glad to know I'm not alone.

Since I stopped going to meetings (I have been to 4 meetings since November 2002), I feel stronger spiritually than I have ever felt before! This is all thanks to you guys on this board. I have learnt so much from you. You have more sense than the whole of the GB put together.

I get so angry when I meet people from my congregation and they look at me pityingly and say things like "I hope you will come back to the truth soon". How dare they! They are judging my spirituality by my meeting attendance and hours on field ministry. I wish I could explain everything to them.

As a side note - if anyone can help me and tell me how to broach the subject of my drifting away to my youngest son, I would be so grateful.. What do I tell him? He asks why I don't go to meetings any more. He is so concerned and thinks I am in danger of dying at Armageddon. How do I start explaining things to him. I want to get him out of this hateful cult, but I do not want to hurt him.

xxR

By the way - he is 20

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JWs and extracurricular activities

by MoeJoJoJo in

jw
friends

jw children miss out on so much.

i was raised as a jw and there were so many school activities that i wanted to participate in but was not allowed.

i remember my gym teacher encouraging me to go out for soccer, i asked my parents if i could and of course i knew the answer would be no even before i asked.

rebel

I used to have such a battle with my inner feelings over this issue.

My poor kids - they must have sensed that I was not 100% behind banning them from karate, Guides, Scouts, school choir, school musical performance, school trips......good grief, the list goes on.

My husband was (and most definitely still is) a control freak and would not allow them to participate in any of the above. I was more easy-going (he used to say I was spiritually wishy-washy) and I didn't mind what they did within reason. I knew we had to be careful not to let other JWs know what we were doing or they would label us as bad associates.

WHAT UTTER ROT! I am so angry that I went along with this garbage. I am too annoyed to write any more.

xxR

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Keep doing this until I return

by Caliban in

jw
friends

if jesus said to keep celebrating the memorial 'until he returned' and he returned in 1914 then why do we still celebrate the memorial?

isn't he here already!?!.

can anyone enlighten me?

rebel

Sorry Nathan Natas - this is weird! Always happens!

I was going to say there is a scripture in 1Corinthians 11:26 where Paul says we must keep eating the loaf and drinking the cup until the Lord arrives. When I asked my husband why, if Jesus arrived in 1914, JWs still keep on doing this, he said I was splitting hairs!!!

xxR