Posts by DJS

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Cold Fusion Moves Into Mainstream

by metatron in

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friends

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/15/cold-fusion-moves-into-mainstream.

you shills aren't doing your job.

you need to provide more ridicule to stop this movement from saving the human race and changing the world.. hey, i'm just sayin'.

DJS

Snare, you may have figured Metatron out. According to experts, conspiracy theorists typically have low self esteem, and the 'special feeling' of being right or superior they get from holding on dearly to their conspiracy theories fills the void. Arguments advanced by conspiracy theorists tell you more about the believer than about the event, so Snare you are spot on.

A healthy amount of skepticism should be a goal of all of us, but conspiracy theorists take it to ridiculous heights. Conspiracy believers are highly doubtful about information from the government or other sources they consider suspect. But, without criticism, believers accept any source that supports their preconceived views, which is what we see with Met's OP. And trying to reason with them is typically a waste of time. They and only they know the 'real truth,' while everyone else is mindlessly following the government, media, instituion, etc.

Experiments have also shown that conspiracy believers not only often subscribe to a variety of well-known conspiracy theories, but also frequently agree with an invented conspiracy. So yes, it appears that you can tell more about the person than the topic in this matter.

Sounds kinda like the Reverend on this site. Met and the Rev have a lot in common.

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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

by cofty in

yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

DJS

As regards the tsunami I think it is interesting to observe the 'blame game.' Muslims were widely criticised for failing to provide charitable contributions because they blamed the victims, who were largely Muslims, claiming that god allowed the tsunami because they weren't 'good' Muslims. Some Hindus blamed the Christians for the tsunami. Some right wing U.S. politicians and pastors also blamed the victims, indicating it was god's retribution against non-Christians.

Geeeshh. Why is anyone a theist?

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Immoral sleeping arrangement?

by hoser in

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friends

i'm reading through the watchtower rule book right now and i came to the chapter clarification and guidelines on handling certain matters.

there is a part about scriptural divorce and even if adultery is not proved if your ex stayed all night or is involved in an immoral sleeping arrangement you can get scriptural grounds to remarry.. .

they make a rule, then they have to make a rule for the rule, make another rule for the rule for the rule.

DJS

Change the language. Immoral and adultery = Fun! Especially if the wife or girlfriend is there with you! (mind blowing fun actually), or you have an 'arrangement' (polyamorous lifestyle). Start calling this behavior FUN and see how fast your mind follows. And I'm NOT talking about betrayal in these comments designed and intended to rattle. Betrayal is betrayal. Period.

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What do you say if you get asked "Are you an Apostate?"

by KateWild in

i am reuniting with past students and return visits.. i met up with a young lad i used to call on.

he is not baptised, but at university in his 20's and living away from home.

his mother is a jw and his father is not.

DJS

Kate,

Since you are obviously associated with the JW world (one toe in one and 4/5 feet out it seems), you likely have to tiptoe around the loaded WT language. I understand that, especially with the audiience you describe. Otherwise, I would tell everyone to leave behind the WT specific language ASAP. As I have mentioned many times, I do not and will not use WT specific language, as it was designed to control mindless people or make mindful people mindless.

I don't even use the TTATT acronym. There isn't anything about the WT that is 'the truth.' Change your language people; change the adjectives you use to describe behaviors and lifestyles that the WT or your upbringing attached with pejorative or denigrating labels and you will be amazed at how fast your mind/behavior follows.

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Christians please answer something for me

by confusedandalone in

or should i say some things.... reading over another thread and a number of other threads i have to ask, why are we making excuses for jesus / god.. how can you fathom and all powerful god who created the universe and all the laws that govern it was not capable of:.

1. making sure the proper pronunciation of his name is not available.

2. that all his teaching are not preserved in an easy to discern manner so that ther is no confusion.

DJS

Yeah, I thought John Mann might be channeling the Rev. But on this site I've learned to never assume. John, if you are a satirist my hat is off to you. Well done!

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Debunking Jehovah's Witnesses claim Life is getting worse for humans- Population

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmql3gto128&feature=youtu.be.

DJS

Life IS much better and it isn't even close. The alarmists among us have their own agenda, whether its the JWs or others. Does the world have issues of concern, including climate change and economic parity? Of course. But the world had MUCH bigger problems in 1914, for example, and we are soooooo much better off as a species, even considering weathering the atomic age. My point is there is no reason to believe humans won't learn/tach in the wind/make improvements to improve life in a commensurate manner the next century.

This video states what many on this forum have been saying repeatedly. And once we rely on such pesky (to theists) things call FACTS, we lose the henny penny sky is falling mentality. Life becomes much better post JW when you reach this point.

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Christians please answer something for me

by confusedandalone in

or should i say some things.... reading over another thread and a number of other threads i have to ask, why are we making excuses for jesus / god.. how can you fathom and all powerful god who created the universe and all the laws that govern it was not capable of:.

1. making sure the proper pronunciation of his name is not available.

2. that all his teaching are not preserved in an easy to discern manner so that ther is no confusion.

DJS

John Mann and Aquafrenta, you and the Reverend need your own little corner of self delusion to play in on this forum. I call a god who would create moral agents, supposedly in his image, and then provide them NO real direction or guidance for 100,000 years, wreckless and uncaring. If Cofty wishes to call him a moral monster, I'm ok with that. Potato potahto.

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Christians please answer something for me

by confusedandalone in

or should i say some things.... reading over another thread and a number of other threads i have to ask, why are we making excuses for jesus / god.. how can you fathom and all powerful god who created the universe and all the laws that govern it was not capable of:.

1. making sure the proper pronunciation of his name is not available.

2. that all his teaching are not preserved in an easy to discern manner so that ther is no confusion.

DJS

Great OP. And you state a very clear and rational argument as to the unlikelihood of the existence of a god/gods. James Jackson and Kate, I am working on both of your official atheist certificates. Kate wants a pink border around her certificate; James, which color do you wish for yours? Resistance is futile; you will be assimilated (unless you completely stop thinking and return to the cave from which you have escaped).

So Kate, you discount the bible because you feel it was written to control. I would agree; some of that control was probably very necessary to hammer out a civilization beyond the cave, tribe and clan, just as laws are necessary for social order (but lawyers, those desiring to oppressivel or needlessly to control others take law making to the extreme). Some of it was not. That's men for you. It will likely always be such, at least until we quit relying on imaginary creatures to make us behave and begin improving our DNA, which has great capacity for improving our pathetic human condition. But we won't get there until we truly believe we are big enough, strong enough and doggonit people like us and stop relying on a variety of imaginary creatures.

Again, excellent OP and discussions.

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Fallacies about Faith

by tec in

jw
friends

peace to you!.

this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

DJS

Why do you all humor the arrogant, delusional narcissist? Ignore her. It will improve the board. The banter with her isn't even entertaining anymore.

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What if the GB hired you as the new CEO of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by kneehighmiah in

i'm pretending the gb decided to hire a ceo to combat dwindling membership and overall apathy.

here is a list of the changes i would make to the organization if i were hired as ceo.

feel free to list your ideas (serious and humorous)!.

DJS

What I would do is shut the entire religion down. But assuming I was going to play along: Stop disfellowshipping. End the blood fiasco. Quit being pharisees and making 'rules' 'near-rules' 'rules-light' 'wanna be rules' 'mini-me rules' 'semi-rules' about everythign freaking thing. Leave people along and let them use their CONSCIENCE. Stop counting time. Start being the loving christian church you are supposed to be. Stop 'marking' people and acting like everyone not turning in loads of 'time' is 'spiritually weak' (I effing hate that phrase).

That's a start.