Please read the article. The author indicates that acting on, sexually molesting children, is a crime. The underlying attraction is not. I find nothing disturbing about this article.
Posts by DJS
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CO's visit ends with a bombshell!!!
by nowwhat? inat the end of his final talk he said of the gb: they are telling the higher ups , "start getting ready we're not going to be around much longer!
" and we expect the angels to release the four winds any day now!
" my first thought was why are you building a corporate country club then?!
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Mary,
I was holding my 1000th post for something of interest to me. Since this kinda sorta speaks to the decay of the Borg and especially the Dark Lords, I am using it. So thanks for giving me a reason!!
I don't doubt that the Dark Lords are preparing the rank and file for the sifting of the chaff from the wheat as they call it and as Hoser referenced. They aren't geniuses but they know quite well what occurred the years following 1975. They likely expect the same thing to occur post 2014. As I recall, the real bleeding didn't begin until a couple of years after '75. It will be interesting to see if the rank and file wait much beyond 2014 to begin their exit. The world wide web, the failed prophecies, the draconian controls, etc. may speed up their exit. We shall see.
The Dark Lords are expecting an exodus; they don't know how many will go, but they are almost assuredly expecting it. Spinning it (which they excel at) is all they can do. Let's hope the exodus is huge and that it hurts them deeply, which will mean a loss of $ rather than a loss of numbers. The latter they can spin; the former is something they can't run and hide from.
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I am sooo screwed
by Yondaime inso last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.
she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.
what do i do?!!!!!.
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Find another mother.
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I loathe authority
by punkofnice innow i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.
i have a total hatred of them all.
i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.
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Punk and BluePill,
Ditto. I've been a fan of Tolkien for decades - he has influenced popular culture about as much as anyone. The longer I live on the planet the more of an anarchist I become. I know lots of authority people (cops, feds, etc.) and most of them actually carry out their responsibilities as well as humans can be expected. But cops are often drawn to police work because of the enforcement part of law enforcement (Myers Briggs round pegs in round holes), and politicians and other leader types (e.g. elders) are drawn to leadership a lot of times because of an innate desire to control/have power over others/ego. There are a lot of good leaders; unfortunately even they often succumb to their own ego (e.g., Joe Paterno). Even when I'm the authority I hate it.
Great OP and lots of excellent comments. Thanks Team. This one is a keeper.
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bull poop
by snare&racket inglad to see the forum is going strong, lots of new names and stories......and it has only been a couple of months!.
the wt really has no chance in such a world of free and accessible information.
keep fighting guys, the freedom once you are loose of the governing body is awesome, you will be amazed how long you ignored the stench off bullshit as your ability to smell it returns.. and on that note ;) x. .
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Snare!!!
Don't leave. Come back Snare, come back!! Glad to see you posting again, Doc.
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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Kalk,
Excellent commentary. Thank you. We are wasting our time with Met; he is a conspiracy theorist with an obsession and desire for the end of the Western (primarily US) military and economic system. "Debating" with Met is pointless. He ignores facts and prefers factoids and badly researched and written articles which support and confirm his biases. The next time he posts on these topics I'm simply going to post "Met's greatest hits." A research of his OPs shows an obsession with E.T., aliens, UFOs, conspiracy theories and the soon-to-occur downfall of the US/Western miltary and economic power.
It takes about five minutes of surfing on the 'Net to find his Libertarian and Conspiracy Theorist sources. Ultimately this is about one thing: Met's immature, narcissistic obsession to be proven 'right.' Admitting he knows nothing about global/macro economic theory and practical application and global/military/political strategy would be too simple. But it's the world wide web; there are dumbass views continuously poured into it, and any dumbass viewpoint will quickly collect a den of like-minded dumbass followers. I've asked him several times to conduct a 360 degree study of these topics, but he always does the same thing - gets shot down in the OP only to return a few weeks later with what he thinks is a 'gotcha' article or viewpoint. It has become a Lady Gaga Bad Romance.
I avoid OPs where I am not an SME or can provide significantly to the discussion. If he could only do the same, the intelligence level of this site would improve immediately.
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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Scotoma,
Some of the people who do not agree with Met do so because he suffers from OCD. Until he or you or anyone else provides relevant data that the US is fading fast we will continue to view him and those like him as a hysterical reactionary. The US has a lot of problems; lack of military strength and a flexible economy are not two of them. He is myopic and only sees what he wants to see.
I think most of us agree the US tinkers around a lot in others' affairs. Shocking. That's been going on since the beginning of clans/caves, and it is being done now by the Chinese and the Russians. Right now we are just better at it. For over half a century the US/West and the Soviets played war games and conducted spy vs. spy against one another, trying to court any nation which provided a strategic or psychological advantage, to their side.
After a half century of it, the US had courted more pretty girls, and the Soviet system failed - miserably, as their republics have gone their merry way absent the iron fist which kept them together.
The Ukraine got rid of a large rat who is currently been charged with stealing 70 billion dolllars from the Ukrainian till. The Ukrainian parliament voted him out, and the people supported it. They did not need the US or the West to make that occur. You insult the Ukrainians by suggesting otherwise. Did the West want them as a Facebook friend? Duh. Did the West help along the way? Again. Effing DUh. That is not new nor is it news.
No one is anywhere near the US/West when it comes to military technology. I think you need to stick to scriptural prophecy and stay out of OPs for which you know little or nothing. As to my participation: I have stated before that I know more than a little about these topics. When Met, you or anyone else can provide relevant data I and those like me will respond accordingly.
The Chinese and Russian economies have so many land mines ahead that if they avoid any of them most economists will be surprised. The US has a lot of problems, but they pale in comparison to these two countries at the moment. The Soviets fought and lost an invasion against Afghanistan a few years ago, the same Flintstones the US owned within a few weeks. In the first Gulf War people like you and Met were talking about how many tanks and solders Saddam had, and by all estimates he had one of the largest and most capable armies in the world. But those of us who knew, knew that he wouldn't last a few weeks against the US. He didn't. His tanks were destroyed without getting off a shot and without seeing what hit them, even when they were buried in the sand, we could see them. He flew his second/third generation Soviet fighters to other countries because he knew they wouldn't last long against US fighters. And so on. We are much, much better now than then. Moore's law alone suggests the guidance/cyber capabiilties of our various systems have improved exponentially. No one else is even close. Are they improving? Yes, the Russians have improved significantly in the past 15 years, as have the Chinese. But lots of soldiers and tanks doesn't mean much when they can't see what hit them or even get a shot off before being hit.
You know nothing of military capabilities, and neither does Met. There are some of us on this site who know a lot about such things. I completely agree with Met that the US should try to address the underlying root causes of some of the world's strife instead of going in and mucking things up. He is right.
However, if you don't take care of your lovely wife, if you ignore her, abuse her and keep all of the family income for yourself and your selfish pursuits, don't whine when someone with some cash and driving a low fast sports car drives off with her - or bends her over the hood. Look in the mirror for the reason why. That's the story of the Ukraine. For Met or the Russians to whine about such is truly pathetic.
The Soviets pulled off a major coup when they entered Cuba years ago, but Cuba wasn't a US state. Other than a failed intervention, we have let Cuba be Cuba - absent US economic support/trade. They removed nukes from Cuban soil; we removed nukes from Turkey (which kinda sorta started all of that). Sounds fair enough to me.
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Modern Morality .
by jhine inhaving recently been posting on a thread about ot moral values , which are not widely "appreciated " to say the least , i have been thinking about our modern morals about sex and reletionships , or more acurately the lack of any sexual morals todays .
i don't think that we are better off as a society which has gone so far to the do want you want , with whom you want and when you want approach to sexual ethics as we have .
i don't think that women are actually liberated by this attitude .
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Jhine,
Re: the sexualization of young children - Ditto times a thousand. It is disturbing. Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of it is a lot of it is coming from the mothers. That's another OP, but I would certainly like to hear from the women on this forum about this. I see so many little girls, pre-teens and barely teens who are encouraged to dress like hookers, by their moms. ???? I do not understand this. They will be grown up, once grown, for the rest of their lives; they are only children once. Why are so many moms sexualizing their daughters?? New OP?
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US World Power: Time Running Out
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chart-rise-and-fall-of-modern-empires-2014-9.
tick tock...... forget about that daniel image/prophecy stuff.
the process is being accelerated by trying to sanction russia, as they draw closer to china and thereby build an alternative economic system( including a swift banking arrangement of their own).
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The Ukraine situation is a post-Cold War event with all of the Cold War rhetoric and drama. Does the West want to court the Ukraine? Of course. Does Putin and Mother Russia want her back? Of course. No one suggests otherwise, but to credit/blame the West for all of this is ludicrous. The Ukrainian President got what he deserved. Will his replacement or the West's guidance improve things dramatically? Likely not in the short run but likely so in the long run.
Putin wanting the Ukraine back makes more sense than the EU and West courting her (she is a neighbor, many are Russians, they have a history - breaking up is hard to do, and the setting sun makes her look so cute).
Sanctions have and will continue to hurt Russia. Russia has and will feel the pain; economists have estimated that Vlad's foray into Ukraine has already cost his country billions. IPOs have been delayed; loans are more difficult to get; oligarchs are transferring even more of their $ out of the country and a whole lot of billions which would have otherwise come into Mother Russia arent. Vlad needs cash flow. Desperately. Oil and natural gas give him that now, but the hand writing is on that wall and he knows it. He also has huge debt (Olympics, infrastructure), a lot of internal corruption, societal and cultural malaise and a hangover from the post Cold War era and what was lost. A lage part of Vlad's peacockery is intended to re-build Russia's pride and self esteem (most of it is he is simply a peacock). He lined his tanks up and no one blinked. He supported the rebels and the Ukrainians didn't really meet them with roses and wine, including the pro-Russian Ukrainians. His rebels shot down the wrong plane and gave him the worst thing he could have gotten at the moment - a loss of prestige, credibility and bad, really, really bad, PR. So he takes his tanks back home, returns to his sand pile, looks over his shoulder and says that 'yeah, but my dad can kick your ass "the West better not mess with nuclear Russia."
Will it cause a lot of changes in their behavior? Who knows, but it appears in the short run to have, and it will likely do so more in the long run. Can it result in unintended consequences? Of course. Can courting the Ukraine also result in unintended consequence? Of course. But consider what all of the whining nannies on this site and around the world would be saying if the West did nothing and Vlad, in a worst case scenario, used his political and economic clout to re-take as much of the former Soviet empire as possible. Coulda, shoulda, woulda. The West should not humiliate or cripple either Putin or Russia, but the measures taken to this point have been methodical. And effective.
As I've pointed out before, new sources of gas and oil are being built, laid, configured, engieered and worked out financially as we speak. Vlad knows that; using his natural resources as a lever is short for his economic world.
It really would help if those making definitive, reactionary and broad brushed statements about such topics knew what they were talking about.
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Modern Morality .
by jhine inhaving recently been posting on a thread about ot moral values , which are not widely "appreciated " to say the least , i have been thinking about our modern morals about sex and reletionships , or more acurately the lack of any sexual morals todays .
i don't think that we are better off as a society which has gone so far to the do want you want , with whom you want and when you want approach to sexual ethics as we have .
i don't think that women are actually liberated by this attitude .
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Jan,
Ditto to double standards being a part of every culture, and religion seems to lead the way in that regard. I have Muslim and Hindu friends; the double standard which exists in those cultures makes the Western world look like we are all feminists.
The divorce statistics are relevant, as they have consistently reflected societal changes; a more 'telling' statistic is that there are more people choosing to be single. Cofty is right; ethics and how we treat one another are what is important. I've avoided this OP because they always turn into someone's pet peeve about sex. Sex is wonderful, natural, amazing, one of the best things that money can buy (just kidding) and when accomplished by consenting adults ---- is none of anyone else's business. Attempting to place pejorative adjectives on normal behavior is much more of a problem. We all understand how and why that occurred, but those conditions aren't relevant in most societies today.
Cheating on a mate, betraying a mate - these are ethical issues. Sex between consenting adults where betrayal isn't a part of the linkage isn't.
If that is what any of you call amoral, then I suggest you find a time machine and go back to the bad old days. Or keep your private parts - and your opinions about such - to yourselves.