In my experience JWs have as much disdain for any form of Christianity apart from their own version as they do for atheism.
Posts by Laika
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36My 45 Minute Conversation With JWs Today
by cofty inas i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.
ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.
i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.
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Unsung Heroes of J.W net
by new hope and happiness inbeen on this site 8 months now, but not on a daily basis.
recently discoverd a poster named processor, loved his tread on the life of jesus.
anyway the guys posts never seem to make long threads.
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Laika
Vidiot and sir82 both seem to have an almost innate way of reading between Watchtower lines to tell you what's really going on.
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I'm getting baptised - read on!!!!
by quellycatface ini was never christened as a baby.
i have been going to my local parish church for a while now.
really enjoying it.. decided i'm going to get baptised into the christian faith.
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Laika
Congrats Quelly! I was baptised last September and it's still the best thing I've ever done. :) Will any of your family be there with you?
Villagegirl, are you still a mennonite? That's cool.
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Evidence of Jesus being Married?
by cantleave inhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/jesus-wife-fragment-is-not-a-fake-scientists-claim-9253395.html.
a harvard professor is claiming a fragment of papyrus seemingly mentioning that jesus had a wife is an ancient document and not a forgery, following a series of tests.. the text is written in coptic and contains a dialogue in which jesus refers to "my wife.
"karen king, a professor at the harvard divinity school, writes in the harvard theological review that the papyrus is almost certainly a product of ancient christians and probably dates to eighth-century egypt, based on carbon dating and chemical tests on the ink.. none of the testing has produced any evidence that the fragment is a modern fabrication or forgery, prof king and her team concluded.. the fragment, which has some legible lines on the front and on the back, contains the words: jesus said to them, my wife .... she will also be my disciple.. james yardley from columbia university, and alexis hagadorn from columbia university libraries, used a technique called micro-raman spectroscopy to determine that the carbon character of the ink matched samples of other papyri that date from the first to eighth centuries ce.. malcolm choat from macquarie university examined the fragment at hds and offered an independent assessment of the handwriting.. prof king first announced the existence of the fragment in september 2012, at the international coptic congress in rome, where she dubbed it "the gospel of jesus's wife.".
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Laika
So when Jesus said that there is no marriage or giving in marriage in the resurrection, this didn't mean that there would be no marriage in Heaven, but that marriages themselves couldn't happen in the resurrection; they have to happen either in this life or before the resurrection.
That's not a very objective reading cold steel, no more marriage for anyone in the resurrection is exactly what Jesus meant. Your Mormon eisegesis interpretation still leaves the exact problem the sadducees raised in the first place.
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"Keep Doing This In Remembrance Of Me"...keep doing what???
by minimus inif a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
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Laika
Prologos, sure, John 6 is obviously about the eucharist meal, but the bible says this meal is symbolic about as often as it says baptism is symbolic. That is, never.
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"Keep Doing This In Remembrance Of Me"...keep doing what???
by minimus inif a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
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Laika
Where do the Protestants and JWs get off saying the wine and bread are symbols.
Good question. The NWT changing 'this is my body' to 'this means my body' is just wrong.
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Trinitiarian "proof-text" John 20:28 has some problems for "Trinitarians"
by booker-t inall through my years as a jws and after i have always wondered about john 20:28 where thomas says "my lord and my god" to jesus.
i just could not find a suitable answer for this text to disprove the trinity doctrine.
i really never swallowed the jws intrepretation of "shock" by thomas something like "oh my god" but at the same time i had a gut feeling trinitarians were hiding something about this verse.
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Laika
Most likely is that the elder just made the Greek argument up. It's really a simple verse. Thomas did not believe Jesus had rose from the dead. Jesus showed Thomas his wounds and Thomas response 'My lord and my god' was Thomas saying that his doubts had gone and he now believed. It was an affirmation of who Thomas believed Jesus to be, as if he was saying 'it really is you'
The JW elder has told me not one person from the Born-Again/Trinitarian community has been able to dispute this.
I bet he's never raised that with a real biblical Greek scholar.
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Why did God test Abraham?
by jws inwhen jws come around with their articles asking "is god cruel?
", i often point them to genesis 22:2:.
2 then god said, take your son, your only son, whom you loveisaacand go to the region of moriah.
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Laika
Abraham was a bit of a coward, he twice abandoned his wife with strange men to save himself and then abandoned his first child to please his wife, did he ever stand up to anyone?
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Watchtower cover models
by Laika inthe jws have a cart at the train station near my work and today they're featuring the april watchtower and awake magazines.. have you seen these yet?
have the society discovered the worldly technique of using attractive cover models to sell their products or something?
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Laika
Band, did you know they change the picture depending on where the magazine is issued? So the swahili versions have black girls, for example.
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Why did God test Abraham?
by jws inwhen jws come around with their articles asking "is god cruel?
", i often point them to genesis 22:2:.
2 then god said, take your son, your only son, whom you loveisaacand go to the region of moriah.
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Laika
It was a common belief at the time that the gods wanted child sacrifices, by having their god intervene the story showed the Jews that their god didn't approve of this act and they weren't to follow that ritual.