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  I'm In London!

  by FL_Panthers in

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  can anyone recommended any good congregations to visit?

  my hotel is in waterloo area so something close please.

  anyone else here from london?.

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  Laika

  I'm in London! How long are you here for? Business or pleasure?

  New Cross is about 10-15 minutes away by train, simple and direct.
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  Trying to understand JW behaviour?

  by Laika in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know a girl who left the jws about 10 years ago, she was not disfellowshipped and this caused a bit of consternation in my jw community as other people who felt forced to shun their family thought it unfair.

  some of the elders reacted to this by attempting to arrange a jc, but the girl's father, also an elder, got very angry and put a stop to it.

  he has a fiery temper and the elders felt it best not to push him.. meanwhile this girl's family have always treated her as if she's never left, she moved to london and the family visits her on holiday weekends, her brothers would make us other jws visit her socially when we went to london for holidays, i was fine with this, never complained as i thought she was great fun.. a few years ago however, she got married to a nonjw, the family were excited and ready for the wedding but the other jealous jws complained to the co and he banned this family from the wedding, telling the father he would be removed as an elder and the sons as mss if any attended.

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  Laika

  I know a girl who left the JWs about 10 years ago, she was not disfellowshipped and this caused a bit of consternation in my JW community as other people who felt forced to shun their family thought it unfair. Some of the elders reacted to this by attempting to arrange a JC, but the girl's father, also an elder, got very angry and put a stop to it. He has a fiery temper and the elders felt it best not to push him.

  Meanwhile this girl's family have always treated her as if she's never left, she moved to London and the family visits her on holiday weekends, her brothers would make us other JWs visit her socially when we went to London for holidays, I was fine with this, never complained as I thought she was great fun.

  A few years ago however, she got married to a nonJW, the family were excited and ready for the wedding but the other jealous JWs complained to the CO and he banned this family from the wedding, telling the father he would be removed as an elder and the sons as MSs if any attended. There were tears and pain, they complained about how it would make JWs look to the worldly guests as she had to explain why her parents weren't there. The CO did not back down, they did not go to the wedding. They apologised to the poor girl, and put the blame solely on the cruel CO. Aside from this, however, they treated her as normal. They will be staying in her house during the Convention weekend in London.

  This is, of course, all right and good. And yet, this same father will sit on other JCs and disfellowship young people for the same things he fought tooth and nail to stop his daughter being df'ed for. I'm not df'ed either, my family will not stay at my house in London during the convention because it will stumble people. The main culprits are this girl's very brothers! They've literally campaigned for me to be cut off, spreading outright lies about me and threatened to have marked anyone, including my own brother, who sees me.

  I just don't get it. People who fought so hard to maintain contact with their family and complained whenever anyone intervened are the same people who have treated me with more anger and vitriol for leaving then anyone else!

  How do you live with that kind of inconsistency. How can you not see it? Can someone help me out here because it's really bugging me! I left a year ago, they should be over it!
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  Keep Seeking First God's Kingdom - RC 2014 - Saturday

  by OwnAccord in

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  jehovah's help break free.. "greedy people".

  but the desire to have more money, power and.

  helped student.

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  Laika

  I know a few JWs that will be upset that karaoke night is now banned.
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  When You Went Door to Door, Did You Ever Go to Any Famous Peoples Homes?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  i haven't really thought of this but maybe you have knocked on some "famous" door.. i think the only one i can come close?

  to is one of "the irish rovers" singer - song groups, but after he moved.. what about you?.

  just lois.

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  Laika

  Alan Whicker. He was an ass.
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  "But the Basics haven't changed"

  by Phizzy in

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  a couple of days ago in town i met a jw guy i have known since he was a kid in diapers, he is now an elder and must be 40 yrs old, still a kid to me, though.. he gave me the spiel about "we would love to see you come back " , i said that i could not come back to the religion i had left as it no longer existed (a line i got from my friend bill), this elder replied that there "had been changes, but the basics remain the same".. i just was not quick enough with this one, i just sort of nodded at that and went on about what i simply could not swallow as "truth".

  overlapping generation etc etc.. what he was meaning by the basics being the same is that nothing has changed on the "what jw's don't believe in" front, i.e trinity, immortal soul etc.

  the reality it is that the basics of jw/wt teachings about what they do believe in have all changed !.

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  Laika

  Have JWs kept any of the doctrines they had in 1919?

  Apart from an emphasis on using the name Jehovah to refer to god I can't think of any?
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  Strange happenings

  by Laika in

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  when i was on the train this morning i spotted that the guy stood next to me in the rush hour crush was reading the daily text on the jw app.

  i paid little attention and went back to reading my book (catch-22 - thanks frazzled .

  i kid you not.

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  Laika

  That's what I guessed Doc, but what a place to watch that video!
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  the green mile?

  by sparrowdown in

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  just wondering.. do you agree/disagree with capital punishment?.

  are there any circumstances that would justify it?.

  or is taking any human life unacceptable, regardless of the crime?.

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  Laika

  Good film.
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  Any ideas for my return visit?

  by KateWild in

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  i had a really fun day today.

  i went to town on first call to witness to the jws on the trolley outside the main train station in the city.

  i had prepared two different presentations depending on whether or not the jws knew me.. if they knew me i planned to tell them how unjust my last jc was and that i didn't believe jehovah cared about me or anyone, and if they didin't know me i would just question them about their disfellowshipping policy.

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  Laika

  Hi Kate

  Glad you had a good day, I saw some JWs outside a train station when I was in your city in March, I wondered if they knew you. I was with my JW parents who stopped to talk to them, I thought it best to stay quiet.

  It sounds like you're a minor celebrity now! I suspect there's been more than a few lies said about you, good to set the record straight!
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  Strange happenings

  by Laika in

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  when i was on the train this morning i spotted that the guy stood next to me in the rush hour crush was reading the daily text on the jw app.

  i paid little attention and went back to reading my book (catch-22 - thanks frazzled .

  i kid you not.

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  Laika

  When I was on the train this morning I spotted that the guy stood next to me in the rush hour crush was reading the daily text on the JW app.

  I paid little attention and went back to reading my book (catch-22 - thanks frazzled ) and when I next looked up I spotted that the same JW had flicked over to watching a video of a woman giving birth.

  I kid you not. I'm also skipping breakfast, and maybe lunch.
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  One thing about this site that bothers me

  by keyser soze in

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  the constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.

  but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.

  one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.

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  Laika

  I might be paranoid but I swear JWs used to look down on me for working in an investment bank.

  Some of the JW window washers I knew were quite wealthy. I knew one guy who supported his wife and pioneering with just 1 days work washing windows. Amazing.