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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

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  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  Laika

  Yadda, I think you are being unnecessarily harsh here:

  "If you reject scripture...."

  I don't want to speak for Tammy but just because someone doesn't take a modern fundamentalist approach to scripture it does not mean they 'reject' it.

  "but claim to have a personal relationship with and hear the mystical voice of spirit beings, whether it's angels or Jesus, you are not really a Christian and are nothing but a self-proclaimed mystic, a spirit-medium, a white witch."

  Why does it have to be either/or? Ever heard of Christian mysticism? And who made you the arbiter on what is and isn't Christian anyway?

  "Take your pseudo-Christian mysticism somewhere else. Start your own website and post all your magical, mystical nonsense and jiggery pokkery there."

  Apparently, Tec has already started her own website, but why the intolerance? Just because you don't like her views she shouldn't be allowed to post them here? I find this very strange.
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  Jehovah in the New Testament (New NWT bible )

  by jhine in

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  i have just seen in the flesh , or paper , the new nwt .

  my witness friends were delighted with it showing me all the new features like the glossary of terms and explanations of the hows and whys .

  i did ask about actual content , acting daft not letting on that i knew anything about it .

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  Laika

  Read appendix A3 and the argument made is that the manuscripts available, including the NT ones are completely reliable. But in inserting Jehovah into the NT they are contradicting themselves.

  If Jehovah was originally in the NT then the manuscripts have been changed, other parts could also have changed, and we cannot rely on the manuscripts. If the manuscripts are accurate then Jehovah was never mentioned in the NT and using the name can't be that important.

  It really is as simple as that. Either/or. It's a major problem for JW doctrine.
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  A House Divided Against Itself Falls-Luke 11:17

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

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  2. friends

  that text reminds me of one of a handful of problems peculiar to the ex-jw community.

  second only to the wild beast's internal divisions, is the divided makeup of the ex-jw populace.

  you know the one thing that indicates jehovah's blessing upon the worldwide association of kingdom proclaimers, is not only the continued success of the preaching work, but along with it the unity and love amongst the brothers and sisters.

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  Laika

  So stand for pure worship has had several different accounts here? Maybe he should focus more on unity within himself...

  Not sure what the point is in coming to an exJW board and playing JW apologist when you already know it's not the truth?
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY believe the bible is the most important spiritual food

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in my 50+ years as a jw i have never been aware of them ever having a campaign.

  concentrating on distributing bibles.

  their "preaching" is totally about their own.

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  Laika

  The problem is that JWs believe that in order to be saved you have to join their Organisation and accept their teachings as true. This will never happen from just reading the bible, and they know it, so giving out bibles without accompanying literature would not be considered worthwhile.
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  Tea Party with a Cultist

  by jgnat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first off, americans, i'm not talking the boston tea party, here.. .

  think more along the lines of the mad hatter's tea party.. .

  i was imagining the different approach we take talking our loved-ones, depending on whether they are in their cult mode or natural mode.

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  Laika

  The last time I saw my parents they gave me a bunch of Watchtower literature to read/watch to win me back (including the Prodigal DVD which I'm pretty sure was intended as a guilt trip - I'd already seen it anyway) I accepted and promised to read which I felt was the best way to keep the peace.

  In future I thought I could agree to take the literature, but only if they agree to read a letter, written by me, explaining why I am no longer a JW, but I know timing would be important to this kind of agreement. Straight after a meeting and they would find the idea that they should read anything potentially critical of the Organisation very offensive.

  The cultist side is hard work, it's frustrating that I have to play a role and they can say whatever they want, but that is life I guess.
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  My bible study last night...holy hell

  by DS211 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so last night was my weekly bible study with my wife my friend/elder and his wife.

  well like many still asleep the first thing that we talked about was what intrested us about the agm..so the elder goes into the things like how exciting it is and loves all the added crap in the appendixes and the info in the front beause its straight from gods word.

  i thought "didnt someone say you shouldnt add anything or take anything away?

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  Laika

  Working on the magazine and literature counter at the hall can tell you a little bit about the competency of Bethelites. Orders constantly wrong and take months to process. This was frustrating because the myth of Bethel's efficiency meant everyone blamed you when they had to wait months for their order, because it couldn't possibly be Bethel who screwed it up, they're so efficient!
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  I don't care...

  by lostinthought in

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  first of all, i haven't been to a meeting since this summer.

  i actually had a better plan for fading but of number of things happened where i decided it was best to go "cold turkey" (one of the biggest things that caused my exit was that an elder at my last shepparding call who said he thought i was suicidal when i really have no attention of killing myself).

  so when the phone calls, emails and texts started coming, ive been ignoring them all, except those from my family.

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  Laika

  Just give it a bit more time, they will give up eventually.
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  Conspiracy theories.

  by chrisuk in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'd just like the opions of some of the more clear thinking member on this please:.

  let me just start this by saying i don't really buy into conspiracy theories, but sometimes they seem to make sense, i suppose that's the point of them.

  all this business with edward snowden seems to add a little more weight to certain conspiracy theories.

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  Laika

  Hi Chris

  I am not sure I fall into the clear thinkers category but if Satan/the illuminati are using the JWs to form their one world government then we don't have much to worry about, they're still a tiny religion in comparison to the world population.

  Actually Rutherford himself was a conspiracy theorist who believed in secret Catholic plots to take over the world. Some of his rejection of mainstream Christian doctrines and practices came out of this. I think that if you look at JW history you'll find the sources of their ideas have nothing to do with freemasonry.
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  Serena Williams admits to being possessed by demons?

  by Dis-Member in

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  2. scandals

  ala beyonce & lady gaga?.

  http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2013/05/serena-williams-explains-multiple-personalities/47701/.

  http://www.christianpost.com/news/serena-williams-reveals-split-persona-tequanda-is-not-christian-102329/.

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  Laika

  "They had to have a talk with me. And I knew it was coming."

  Oh boy, do I know that feeling!
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  Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm.

  ancient confession found: 'we invented jesus christ'biblical scholars will be appearing at the 'covert messiah' conference at conway hall in london on the 19th of october to present this controversial discovery to the british public.

  london (prweb uk) 8 october 2013. american biblical scholar joseph atwill will be appearing before the british public for the first time in london on the 19th of october to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to atwill, that the new testament was written by first-century roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of jesus christ.

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  Laika

  George Washington was invented by the British to help control the Americans... Or something.