I don't believe in a book.
I believe I've experienced god, millions of people have testified to similar experiences. I considered that I might be deluded but couldn't convince myself this was so.
my question basically is - why believe?.
now as a non believer i find it hard to understand how anyone in their right mind can believe in the supernatural and more to the point, live their lives according to an old book.
not just christians obviously.. my intention is not to offend people.
I don't believe in a book.
I believe I've experienced god, millions of people have testified to similar experiences. I considered that I might be deluded but couldn't convince myself this was so.
human rights are clearly laid out in a number of places, and are upheld by legislation in many nations, and yet they are ignored, or when they are invoked, do not go far enough.. this is a sad state of affairs in the 21st century.. human rights are simply trodden in to the ground where we have war, where we have totalitarian regimes, and where we have ignorant clerics who rule.. even in enlightened countries that broadly accept the principles of human rights, they often are not given the priority they should receive.. take freedom of religion for example, this right should enshrine the right to freedom from religion.
the fact that we in the u.k, canada the u.s.a, europe etc etc are unable to really be free of the wt/jw religion if we wish to choose to do so shows this right is unenforceable at present.. the same with the right to family life, the jw/wt cult is allowed to ride roughshod over this basic human right.. it is time their power, and the power of religion in general, was reigned in, and they be made to respect human rights fully..
How would you suggest reining that power in Phizzy?
I hate disfellowshipping but I'm not convinced a police state is the solution.
the unknown writer of the gospel of john put the following words in jesus' mouth, "blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.".
persuading countless generations that it is a virtue to believe incredible things on insufficient evidence, is one of religion's cleverest tricks.. the more incredible the claim; the more flimsy the evidence; the stronger the belief; the greater the virtue.. this is the exact opposite of how we operate in every other aspect of our lives.. rational people must demand objective evidence for everything they are asked to believe.
"extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence".. leaving the dogmatic claims of the watchtower is only a first step.
As the UN says, I believe that 'All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.'
I don't think I could provide objective evidence to back up this claim.
quite a few here on jwn seem to have grown and developed in leaps and bounds, sometimes beyond their wildest dreams.. others seem to still be struggling.. what do you think makes it possible to flourish?.
the degree to which our mind has been liberated from watchtower thinking?.
if so, this seems to happen in many different ways, so what is the secret?.
Some people are more naturally confident and fun to be around, so they make friends more easily. This is common in all groups, not just ExJWs.
her life embodied how the human spirit can rise from crushing conditions to mentor, role model and teacher.. she went mute for 5 years after being raped at the age of 9. in that time she found her inner spirit to write and speak for others.. her life course went from working in brothels to teaching in universites.
from broken home to addressing the nation at william clinton's inaugeration.. her poems touched millions of lives.
i know why the caged bird sings; on the pulse of morning; a brave and startling truth:.
Oh, what a shame. :( She was wonderful.
ot law required jews to take the lead in stoning a family member who became apostate.. the watchtower has lamented the fact that the law of the land now forbids them from doing so.. if the law permitted it, as it does in some musim countries, and if the watchtower required it, would your family obey?.
my parents are good people and i believe their love for me is genuine, but i think they would follow orders.. what about yours?.
How would the Watchtower require it? If it was stone your child or be stoned yourself as it is with disfellowshipping, I would be a bit worried for sure, my parents use their religious convictions as a cover for their cowardice.
21 years ago today, was the one of the most special days of my life.
i gave birth to my precious daughter.
who knew it would pass so quickly!
On my 21st my work colleagues bought me a congratulations card, my boss went round making sure nobody put 'happy birthday' just congratulation messages, even as a JW I was impressed by their kindness. There are some wonderful people in the world.
I'm glad she's enjoying her day!
21 years ago today, was the one of the most special days of my life.
i gave birth to my precious daughter.
who knew it would pass so quickly!
Happy birthday Kate's daughter!
........ well at least the ones i encountered on my recent holiday to orlando.
now i know that its a tourist destintion so everyone working in the hotels and parks are on their best behaviour.
but i have been to tourist towns here in the uk and europe but not one is on a par with you guys.. my husband and i haven't stopped talking about to anyone that wants to listen.
Agreed, Americans are ace. :)
anyone else getting a bit tired of being wetted upon?.
i've sort of had enough already, suede shoes in the rain is not not a good idea.. .
on the plus side, it's fun for fish .
Ha, yeah, Florida it ain't!
You get used to it when you live here. :)