Posts by wannaexit

I remember her experience in 1979.I was a teenager back then and can remember vividly how I felt sick to my stomach to think that she abandoned her little children and why would Jehovah allow her to abandon her family. It seemed so unnatural to me.

May she rest in peace.

wanna

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Watchtower Changes- Pointed Counsel - what -speculate

by stillajwexelder in

we all know that the watchtower changes are supposed to allow more "pointed counsel".

this will be coming quite soon - i already have my september magazines - so only 6 more issues and we will be into the january 2008 issues.

what are some of the issues that may be addressed in this pointed counsel?.

wannaexit

What do you all think?

I don't really know what the nature and the content will be. I do know this from talking to longtime friends in the "troof", that many are sick and tired of all the negative talk about education and the solicitation for more funds.

I hope Watchtower does all of what you say. Some are starting to see it now and many more will see it then.

Wanna

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5000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS OF JW PEDOPHILE CASES AVAILABLE! B ANDERSON BOOK

by Seeker4 in

barbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .

its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .

the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.

wannaexit

BTTT

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Active Elders who post on JWD

by Honesty in

does your conscience torment you knowing that you are misleading the flock of god as you continue teaching them the heresies of the watchtower society?.

why are you staying in the organization and posting here at the same time?.

do you really believe that you can help your families to reject the watchtower society while remaining an elder and visibly appearing to support their lies and false teachings?.

wannaexit

Does the end justify the means? I don't know. But I don't feel that this is a moral dilemma. What we are speaking of is, after all, just a cult. A man made religion. Why do they deserve my respect? Right now, they do not "need to know" my true feelings. I will reveal those to them when I am ready.

Well said Gary1914.

I applaud you for what you are doing. I know that it takes a great deal of intestinal fortitude to put up with the BS.

Others should not judge.Those of you able to get out and put it behind you, good for you. But not everyone can do that.

I will be forever indebted to my husband for putting up with the crap for my sake. I am grateful that he didin't stop cold turkey when he started to find out things. Our marriage would have ended for sure because I had sold my soul to the watchtower.

Do we want to stay for ever? Of course not. But in the meantime some of us do what we hav to do.

wanna

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What's your name for 'Watchtower Speak'?

by sweet pea in

having put some distance in between us and the wts, i can't read any of the society's publications without feeling extremely uncomfortable and irritated by the tone and language that the society uses.

it all sounds the same - patronising, guilt-inducing, condescending, intellectually unchallenging, etc.

as far as i'm aware the term is 'watchtower speak'.

wannaexit

at my house we call it the "TROOF".

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Reasoning with spouses using the 09/07 KM article

by sir82 in

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i am still working on my wife, some progress is being made, but it is slow going.. here is how i plan to reason with her regarding the 9/07 km article on "non-endorsed" methods of study.

feel free to use or adapt yourself, if you are in a similar situation.. .

suppose that one day a stranger calls the house when i am not at home.

wannaexit

What I have seen in my experience (and from listening to the experience of others) is that bringing up issues that call the Watchtower into question directly are a big no no. Instead you want to try back door conversations

There certainly is a lot of truth to this. I recall one occasion when my husband said to me: "Just think honey, Jesus has been in power since 1914. That means that there are only 900 years left to his reign".

I thought about this for a long time. I reasoned "if Jesus started ruling in 1914 hubby is right there are only 900 years left.Why doesn't the society realize this". I believe these "back door" conservations really are more effective.

It takes careful cajoling to help someone out. Bringing up an issue to a solid JW may be too confrontational.

wanna

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How many have wives who think it's the truth?

by drew sagan in

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the idea for this thread was sparked by seeing that a lot of guys thought that the latest km article would be a great talking point.

there are a number of jwd poster who have lived through the hell of having a wife who thinks it is the truth.

i am happy to say that i have been through it and survived.

wannaexit

I am a wife that thought JW had the "Truth". Hubby knew roughly ten years before I finally got it.

He never gave up on me. In 2002 I finally started to "see" for myself.

I believe that even the most hard-core JW has some inner doubts. I know I did, but I shoved them aside. I would always blame myself for not understanding better.

Reading Ray Franz's books really helped me out.

Wanna

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30 minute Sunday talks??

by still_in74 in

ok maybe somebody else can validate this for me as it has been "officially" announced yet, or at least not in my kh.

apparently also starting in the new year along with public/private watchtowers the sunday public talk will be reduced to 30 minutes from the current 45 minutes while not lengthening the wt study.

i hear the reasoning is to give the "brothers" more time to associate after the meeting.

wannaexit

Has anyone else heard about this yet? I heard it was being announced this week

Yes it was announced this week. The interesting fact is the elimination of any negative comments in the introduction.

wanna