Posts by wannaexit

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Walk into your Kingdom Hall and tell us what you saw !

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this was me driving into the parking lot and into the kingdom hall:.

every week the same brothers and sisters are late getting to the meeting.

elders are talking with other elders ( who always have notes and folders in their hands).

wannaexit

Tim hooper those are so funny . I just about to walk across the street to borrow a valium from my centenarian neighbor- then I watched they video and I am all better now. :)

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Interview with an apostate: Hillfy54321

by Hillfy54321 in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. im sixty years old, and i am a second generation jw.. were you a born in or a convert?.

i was a born in.. are your parents / family jws?.

my parents were both witnesses, as also was my oldest sister, though they are all now deceased.

Walk into your Kingdom Hall and tell us what you saw !

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this was me driving into the parking lot and into the kingdom hall:.

every week the same brothers and sisters are late getting to the meeting.

elders are talking with other elders ( who always have notes and folders in their hands).

wannaexit

Hi Rules: I am doing well thanks. Still plugging along and going to meetings with my hubby for the sake of my parents .

I am glad you started this thread- it made me sit back and and chuckle as I "watch the view" at the hall.

I also wonder what's in those suitcases. This particular elder is a promoter of electronics--so everything he needs for the "cult reunions" is in the confines of his apple device. But I guess if one is a high school dropout, having a large briefcase gives one a sense of importance. Its like having those letters in front of your name.

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Walk into your Kingdom Hall and tell us what you saw !

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this was me driving into the parking lot and into the kingdom hall:.

every week the same brothers and sisters are late getting to the meeting.

elders are talking with other elders ( who always have notes and folders in their hands).

wannaexit

This is what I saw:

Sister " First Lady" married to the presiding overseer- she is a regular pioneer so she needs torun to the magazine and literature counters to stock up on supplies. She doesn't talk to anybody. She is far too important to socialize with the lower class.

Presiding overseer- walks in after the meeting has started. He is late because he's been busy in a mini meeting at the back of the hall. He has a permanent lean to one side on account of his very heavy suitcase/briefcase. He doesn't look at anybody , he has to concentrate on his steps because if he looks up that heavy case will unbalance him and for sure he'll crash to the ground.

In a corner there is sister" Cry Alot" there is really nothing wrong with her- she is looking for sympathy . There are a group of other sisters trying to console her. Deep down I think she is crying because she really would like to be shopping rather than be sitting here.

Then there is the group of young teenages. At a local needs part, they've been counselled to branch out and not to isolate themselves in the corner. On this particular day, I noticed that they have truly branched out and have moved to the opposite corner of the hall.

Sister " I got disfellowshipped but I have a boyfriend" walks in dressed up to the nines with her bearded boyfriend following her. She doesn't sit in the back row reserved for the disobedient like her. NO way--she marches right to the front and sits in the front row.

The public speaker could pass for the teacher in Charlie Brown cartoon series. You know the character that sounds like she is speaking through a trombone -wah wahhh wawahhh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhxfo4

Quite a few are sleeping--heads bopping-they wake up only when their Bibles thump to the ground

This is fun- I'll have to pay closer attention from now on.

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I am having a Bad Day today

by KateWild in

jw
friends

stressed again with my circumstances.

very tiresome, but i need to be positive.

are you an optimistic soul?

wannaexit

Hi katewild: hang in there. There is always tomorrow with the prospect of a better day. I enjoyed the youtube audio with Jwstruggle.

here is a something that will make you smile:

a very bright and precociuos little girl was walking with her mom. At one point she asked her mom:

"mommy why are you so smart". THe mom explained that she had passed the "mommy test".

The little girl thought about this for a while, then with a big smile said:

"now I understand, the mommies that don't pass the mommy test become daddies".

No offense to all the daddies in the forum----out of the mouth of babes..

this conversation actually happened. Lol

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

wannaexit

BluePill2:

Thank you for sharing this. Can only imagine how difficult it is for you to rehash a past that you want to forget. But its so important that stories and experiences such as yours come out. These stories have to be told and have to be documented. There is a putrid rot deep within the bowels of this organization. Truth must be told.

Those of us that have had a long history with the organization know that what you are recounting is the truth. I would like to translate your experience and post on another ex jw forum from another country. I'll wait for your permission.

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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age

by frankiespeakin in

these guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?

i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.

wannaexit

Watchtower never though long term for its people. The end was always a round the corner. The only long term plans they are obsessed about is their real estate.

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INTERVIEW with WANNAEXIT

by wannaexit in

yes both my parents are jws.

few in the congregation knew about it.

what would you change in your life if you could go back and talk to yourself?.

wannaexit

Tell us a little about yourself and your family.

I am a middle aged mother and wife.

Were you a born in or a convert?

My parents converted when I was very young

Are your parents / family JWs?

Yes both my parents are JWs

How many generations have been JWs?

My maternal grandmother was studying with the witnesses and attended meeting although she never baptized.

Did you hold any position in the WTS? (MS, Elder etc...)

I held the position of the subserviant woman. I also pioneered during high school and then after high school graduation I started regular pioneering when the hourly requirements was 100 per month and continued for 20 years until I started a family.

Did you *really* believe in the bible, in spirits (angels, demons)?

I was a little girl, and believe everything I was told. I always had some internal doubts. Especially about the end coming.

I don't know what I believe at the present. I think deep down I still believe in God but have definitely come to the conclusion that the Bible is a book that has been tampered with and cannot be viewed as absolute.

Did you get baptised? When and why?

I got baptized at the ripe age of 13. I was always a good girl and listened carefully at the meetings and studied all the publications. But I think I got baptized because others in the congregation were doing the deed.

What was the initial trigger that made you start questioning things?

Actually I believe my very young son was instrumental. The trigger was something silly. Around the mid 1990 there was an awake article on the pignata. This article stated that in making the decision whether to use a pignata or not, we shouldn't bother with their origin and only worry about the manner a tradition is considered at present.

All of sudden , I started to panick with the realization that the society changes their view. So would they change the way birthdays are viewed? what about standing for the national anthem? How would I feel after I denied normal events in my son's life only to find out later that it was accepted by the organization? What else could change?

A couple of years later in 1995 a change that literally pulled the rug right under me the generation teaching. Two decades of preaching that the "generation that saw the beginning would also see the end" down the toilet. If this was from God how could he allow me to preach to all those people something that he knew was WRONG? I could not wrap my head around it.

But I still clung to the only thing that I knew. It took a few more years until the scales fell off my eyes.

Where did you find information? Internet sites? Books?

Actually I truly and fully understood after reading Ray Franz's books COC and ISOCF.

My husband, who had figured things out a number of years prior and was waiting for the opportune time to share Ray's books , finally took the gamble and offered the books for me to read. He gave the books and a container of Tylenol . He said he had to take a few while reading Ray's books.

How difficult or painful was the process of leaving?

Due to my family situation and not wanting to hurt my parents, my hubby and I decided to continue in limited measure to keep the calm and peace. We are still attending meeting .

Was it a big dramatic exit or a careful quiet fade?

When I finally sever ties my head wants to do it in a big dramatic exit, but I think that I will continue the slow fade. You see there was one thing that I did really well and that is success in the bible study work. In the 20 years I brough a dozen or so to baptism. I still keep in touch with many of them and their world would be devasted if I went out wiith a bang.

Did you convince anyone else to leave with you?

Actually I have two close friends that have left. Funny they left, I I am still in.

How were your family relations affected by your decision?

I am slowly sharing thing with my parents and they are realizing a lttle at a time. When the time comes I know it will not be such a shock

Were you or are you still being shunned by those who didn't leave?

N/A

How long have you now been out?

Mentally- 10 years . Pysically, unfortunately, still in.

Was there anything you looked forward to doing when you left?

Actually even though I am still considered to be in, I started to enjoy life. The first thing is I went back to school and got an education. Few in the congregation knew about it. I now have a profession that I love. I also celebrate the holidays with co workers quietly celebrate my birthday and clink my glass.

What are you most proud of achieving since you left?

I haven't totally left yet- but the above is achievement for me

Is there anything you miss about life in the congregation?

Sometimes I miss the excitement I used to have when attending an assembly or hearing an experience. I miss the europhia that sometimes I got at the meeting--but I realize that that was all fake.

Red pill or blue pill? Do you regret waking up to reality at all?

I am not sure what red pill or blue pill refers to. I am glad I've come to know what I know --sometimes I also feel that living in ignorance was the easier way-- But I like where I am at now. Mentally free!!! Yeah

Did you become an atheist or transfer your faith elsewhere?

I don't know what I am right now. I vacillate back and forth.

How do you now feel about religion in general?

Let's say that once I free myself from watchtower, I will never want to be part a a religious organization ever agian

Do you feel any guilt celebrating xmas or birthdays or doing any other JW "no-no"s?

Not at all. I just bought presents for all members of my department at work.

.Have you attended any face-to-face meetups of ex-JWs?

No. But I have met Ray Franz and have spent some time with the Andersons and have spoken with Tom Cabeen

Describe your circle of friends - mostly other ex-JWs or regular people?

I feel an affinity towards members of this forum, even though my contributions are small, I still visit often. I also have a a couple of girlfriends that I can confide in. My hubby and I have a couple of worldly friends and after years of keeping my extended non witness family at arms's length, I have worked hard at building solid relationships with these relatives that have loved me unconditionally through the years.

Do you tell people about your JW past?

I tell people that I was raised a JW.

Do you feel animosity or pity toward current JWs?

I feel great animosity towards the governing leaders. Not so much for the every day jw joe.

How do you respond to witnesses when they call at your door?

N/A

Storm the barricades or tend to the wounded? (do you favor activism or support)

A little of both

What do you think is the most effective approach to reaching people still in?

I find that if you let people talk , you can decipher what their doubts are and then go from there.

Do you think the WTS can or should be destroyed, will continue on as-is or grow / change?

It will either become more strict or more main stream. WTS is a totally different place from when I was growing up. I think that it will become more mainstream.

in JW beliefs and doctrines?

Yes

How much of your time is still spent on JW related matters?

As little as I can. I attend some meetings

What do you think of the ex-JW community?

I love the ex JW community because we all shared the same experience in some measure.

Do you see yourself still being associated with the ex-JW community in 5 or 10 years time?

Partially.

Do you fear the future?

I know that I can die - but I can't stop time. So I plan to do the best every day and bring meaning to my days

What advice would you give to anyone starting the journey of leaving the WTS?

Don't do anything rash. Don't be the bull in the china shop. Take your time - educate yourself . Read Ray Franz's books. Participate in this forum.

What would you change in your life if you could go back and talk to yourself?

I would have pursued higher education a lot sooner. I would have had more children- and would have put this cult behind me sooner.

Do you have any regrets about life since you left?

No.

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Have the borg been to assimilate your street with Kingdom News 38?

by outinthemeadows in

i'm only asking because we haven't seen a single sole......(sole being a living creature not a floaty spirit thing!

lol) and nobody has had one down our street at all.........

wannaexit

If you lived in the any of 6 territories I took out -then you wouldn't have gotten any because I didn't do one single door. maybe the witnesses in your area are doing the same--pretending to do the work.

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New Handbill Campaign

by NoRegrets in

apparently the jws are doing a new handbill campaign.

they were just at my door and offered it to me with one of their heartless and scripted presentations.

the religion has just become so dumbed down.

wannaexit

Billy.....I love it. The "tract to trash" campaign has a real nice ring.

Well, i took 5 over 300 tracts and most went form ny purse to the shredder. There you go watchtower!!!!!!!